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Interview with an Indian Writer Mr. Frank Huzur

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This is the second interview of series Pakistan Times starts as an effort to promote peace rather than war. Pakistan Times has decided to involve as many as people from various walks of life both in India and Pakistan rather to have only Journalists. Sole cause behind these interviews is promotion of peace and not hurting anyone’s feelings and projection of neutral and unbiased perspectives. Team of Pakistan Times wishes to bring constructive change through these interviews. My apologies from Mr. Frank Huzur because i conducted this interview in December 28, 2008. Since Pakistan Times was under maintainance process and still is being brought changes.

Pakistan Times is thankful to all Indians and Pakistanis who took extra pain and spared time out of their schedules to make sole cause of Peace promotion within region; Team of Pakistan Times is confident that these interviews can create buzz on horizons of Internet.

frank-huzurFrank Huzur is a poet, playwright and a biographer. His stint in journalism has brought him to Pakistan on several times. In recent times, he has traveled to Pakistan, Lahore, Islamabad, Mianwali, in search of credible research and source about Imran Khan. He has just finished Imran Khan biography, that’s too an authorized biogrphy. For him it was quite a major breakthrough moment for an Indian writer like him writing a biography of a Pakistani politician. The news has been received with much enthusiasm and surprise. Imran Versus Imran-An Untold Story is now complete in writing. His publisher, Falcon & Falcon Books Ltd, London, is expecting to publish it in March.

He is also a creative consultant and joint editor with Foundation of SAARC Writers and Literature. The Foswal, an apex body of SAARC, is the most active literary and cultural wing so far as building the bridge of peace and joy between different SAARC countries is concerned.

Editor: Who do you think is behind Mumbai Terrorist Attacks? Who were the Dakkan Mujahideen and groups like them?

Frank Huzur: Terrorism is a beast with seven heads and more than ten horns. The image is one of diversity at the front end and yet a deep satanic unity. Galileo, the much-cursed astronomer once said:

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered. The point is to discover them. For a plot hatched in hell, don’t expect angels for witnesses.

Mumbai massacre has also triggered a bouquet of its own conspiracy theory. Tragedy with me was that I was not present on the spot. I was holed up in my New Delhi home writing the Imran Khan manuscript. So, I was one more mute spectator to the sixty-hour long horrific drama beaming live into millions of drawing rooms through sky broadcasting. Investigation into the attacks so far are wheeling around the confessions of Ajmal Amir Qasab, the lone gunman captured alive, now in the custody of Mumbai police. His confessions reveal he hails from a village in Punjab Province of Pakistan. He admits he was trained for Jehad by Lashkar-e-Taiyba. Moreover, Intelligence officer from FBI have also questioned the young assassin. Only time will prove whether New Delhi claim is true or Islamabad is feigning innocence about implicit or explicit involvement of masterminds of terror now in house arrest in Pakistan.

I am a Pakistan observer and an Indian author. A poet or author or journalist away from the field of action will be the least qualified one to prove the truthfulness of claims of shadowy groups like Deccan Mujahideen or Indian Mujahideen. I am afraid some security experts, either in India or Pakistan, can give you better picture and help debunk the shards of canards scattered all over the place Mumbai to Mirpur. What New Delhi announces appears another dose of conspiracy theory to Islamabad. Walls of distrust and suspicion have returned to monstrous level, not witnessed in the past four years. In fact, one thing that I have noticed is that all of these conspiracy theories depend on the perpetrators being endlessly clever. I think you will find the facts also work if you assume everyone is endlessly stupid. Whoever is the executioner, be it LeT, Al Qaida or some Mujahideen, had its calculation sheet neatly balanced. There are pluses and minuses to be gathered from horror of such scale. The global war on terror has, at long last, reached the shores of India. Until now, Indians were not in the line of fire, for their assistance with the American war on terror in Iraq, Afghanistan and Waziristan was in non-combatant form. Now, New Delhi is hailed as the strategic ally of the USA, especially after consummation of Civil Nuclear Co-operation Agreement. The USA, too, has moved in swiftly to take India on the board, thereby, drawing much reluctant New Delhi into the morass of the Afghan war. Acts of tragedy of such horrendous scales wouldn’t be achieved unless the pyramid of terrorism and extremism is not counseled by top dog boys of sophisticated Intelligence apparatus and bankrolled by a caucus of bankers.

Editor: How these attacks effected Indian Minorities particularly Muslims?

Frank Huzur: Let me start by saying Indian Muslims are very angry and agitated. Never before did the community feel so much disdain and contempt for Pakistan as they have in store nowadays. Already, the community has been under tremendous strain in the aftermath of blast after blast in different Indian cities. Apparently after each of such acts of mass violence, Investigating agencies, which are predominantly Hindu in character, swoop on Muslim settlements across cities to present their prize-catch of culprits. A huge crowd of rational thinking media persons and Human Rights activists across the length and breadth of India, who are Hindu in name and origin, have confessed in open public discourse that to have a Muslim name in modern India invite swell of suspicion and fear.

Little wonder, Mumbai massacre has brought mountain of tragedy for Indian Muslims. Nearly quarter of those killed by the band of ten gunmen were Muslims, most of them hailing from average common economic background. Quite a few of them were eliminated while waiting to board train for their native places in province of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh.

Nevertheless, every single Muslims is viewed with utmost suspicion and contempt. However, there are silver lining behind the dark clouds. The entire Muslim community of India condemned the attacks in one voice, millions of them in Mumbai wore black bands in collective hour of mourning on their arms. Muslim intellectuals condemned the attacks and vociferously supported tough action against those responsible for the trauma. Nearly all of them are unanimous in their belief that Pakistan government is sheltering the mastermind of terror attacks. If any community this attack was perpetrated against, it was Muslim community. Terrorists wanted to trigger massacre of Muslims in name of their dangerous designs— It is fasad, not Jihad, as terrorist like Qasab are singing about their missions.

Just as hundreds of Hindu women in Hyderabad of Sindh, Pakistan, hit the streets screaming slogans against Indian Government over pointing accusatory finger at their homeland-Pakistan for involvement in Mumbai massacre, hundreds of thousands of Muslims, not the least some super-stars and recognisable faces in Indian celebrity world of Bombay—hit the streets as band of angry protesters against the politicians and terrorists alike. Ironically, there were some motley group of militant Hindu boys in the same protest march who had banners in their hands, which said—Send all Indian Muslims to Pakistan! What a dramatic irony for a Muslim in these troubled times, and what a terrible strategy on part of those who are committing acts of terror in name of Islam and calling it Jihad. Indian Muslims have coined a new term, Fasad, to clothes such Jihadi terrorism. Though, the credit goes to India’s finest socio-political thinker M J Akbar to coin this term, Fasad.

Editor: Do the people of India want War?

Frank Huzur: Like I said, there never was a good war or bad peace. In war, fathers bury their sons and in peacetime, sons bury their fathers. People of India don’t vouch for war. However, a tiny minority of war mongers in Indian government and Opposition alike, aided and abetted by a considerable section of jingoistic media, prominently charged by visual media, is bundling all the fuge of provocation into the bag of dirty tricks. This is a very small crowd of agent provocateurs, which comes across as Islamophobic even during peacetime. Lashkar-e-Taiba repulsive acts have added huge hose of firewood in their hate-ideology. It’s the moment this belligerent section of Indian society, especially Hindu society of which upper caste Hindu constitute the vocal lot- don’t want to go waste. Only this very section invokes spirit of Israeli aggression against Palestinians, Gaza settlers, who are being pounded to scrap of dust once more. However, this very tragedy has its own set of exception and aberrations. There are quite a few Muslims ideologue and discourse maker too, who wants Indian government of Manmohan Singh to take harsh punitive measures against Islamabad.

Nevertheless, majority of Indians, 9 out of every 10 Indians, would not want Manomohan Singh-led UPA government to bomb Pakistan or carry out surgical strikes over terror camps. That Indians don’t want war was explicit in the mandate voters of Delhi delivered in favour of the Congress government. The Capital went to polls on 29th of November when entire country was in flames over Mumbai massacre. Each and every poll pundit predicted a clean sweep for the Hindu nationalist BJP, the principal rival and claimant for power at both state and Centre. To utter dismay and consternation of the BJP and to pleasant astonishment of the Congress itself, the Congress not only secured third successive term, it virtually trounced the BJP. The mood has changed across the country. Indians are angry at their political representatives more than they had been over Pakistan in recent past. They want accountability from Politicians. The BJP’s Hindu vs Muslim cards fell with deep thud on the ground. It came a cropper.

Editor: Do you think Indian media played immature role in agonizing Indian masses blaming Pakistan for these incidents; as a pressure building strategy for Indian Government to attack Pakistan?

Frank Huzur: To considerable extent, some news channels did go over the hill and indulged in silly broadcasting to jerk up their viewers’ rating. Indian television industry, especially broadcasting sector, is still in its infancy. Even Indian government has taken strong exception to the tone and tenor of broadcast. Nearly all the private channels have been rebuked for child-like exuberance. Indian print media, newspapers and magazine, however, didn’t put up any show of a spoiler, and have played out extremely responsible, mentoring role. You can’t do anything about such hate-mongering, either in India or Pakistan. Both countries have to learn to come to grip with larger issues and message of their violent outburst and highly partisan reporting. Especially for television channels, it was a great soap opera, a huge tunnel of opportunity in hours of gravest humanitarian crisis. Now, some television reporters are walking with their chest puffed up in public claiming they were screaming live from the foreground of Taj Mahal hotel. These acts of hysterical reporting has brought them a little tonic in this business of high visibility where reporters or editors don’t want to move out of swanky cushions of studio neon lights into far-flung pockets of rural India, where over 180,000 farmers have killed themselves for want of food crops and financial debt, as well as hundreds of thousands of them have been displaced by the spillover impact of ‘Shining India project’ as their farmlands were bought for throwaway prices to create ‘Special Economic Zones’.

Indian viewers, like electorate of India, are gullible, docile and comfort-loving. This class of about 400 million people have privilege of watching television on cable and dish set top boxes, and these are the people who determine the course of broadcasting. They want drama, however much of it, on small screen to titillate their basic and baser instincts. Mumbai attacks broadcasting was entertaining this very segment of Indian urban population, which has, of the past decade, started enjoying living in communal atmosphere. Although communal harmony and amity reigns supreme at the back of minds of this very highly vocal segment, it is yet easy to lit the spark of division, on caste, class and religious lines.

Editor: Few people in India believe that these attacks were planned to kill people like Hament Karkary who exposed the involvement of RAW in Samjhota incident; how do you see this?

Frank Huzur: Dreaming doesn’t cost a penny. There are, for sure, a huge segment of communal organisations, primarily some zealot, Jehadi Hindu militant groups, who were cursing this valiant and meritorious civil servant. Until his tragic killing in the shoot-out, he was an eyesore to the India’s largest Opposition party, Bhartiya Janta Party and some of its allies and affiliates, such as Shiv Sena in Maharashtra, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, radical Hindu parent organisation of the BJP, Bajrang Dal, a militant youth wing of RSS, and last but not the least, Abhinav Bharat, a surprise package among militant Hindu groups who target Muslims, Christians and vulnerable section among downtrodden Hindus who are on the brink of deserting the Hindu faith and embracing either Buddhism, which is a fad among Dalits of modern India or Islam or for that matter Christianity.

The conspiracy theory is still going around in certain segment, especially Muslims and Christians of India, the common masses on streets, do sniff sinister agenda at work. One Cabinet Minister, A R Antulay, in the Manmohan Singh government dared to question the circumstances of Hemant Karkare’s death on the floor of Parliament. He was demonised in Indian media, heckled by members of BJP in Parliament and was put to sword in his own party. He had to tender his resignation to Sonia Gandhi. No decision has been taken so far. Meanwhile, Antulay has somersaulted on his statement after assurance from the Interior Minister, P Chidambram. What is the assurance from the new Home Minister of India is known only to Antulay.

Indian media heaved a sigh of relief when the issue died down a chilling death. It would be difficult to establish whether there was a hidden force at the centre of Hemant’s and his colleagues’ death. Only posterity would enlighten us on this if there was a foul play. As of now, the UPA government, which didn’t tinker with Hemant Karkare’s investigation into terrorist cells of certain Hindu groups, has ruled out the possibility of conspiracy. Much of Indian street opinion has also turned its face away from this debate now.

Your suspicion about involvement of RAW-Indian external spy agency, into such attacks might be a little unfounded. The groups which have been apprehended have, however, succeeded in engaging a tiny minority of some officials of Indian Defence Services, they might have friends in Indian Intelligence apparatus, too. However, these groups have flourished with tacit support of certain political groups, who benefits out of their subversive, terrorist activities. Both Muslims and Hindus die in any single blast on Indian streets and bazaar.

Though Hemant Karkare was successful in busting the myth of home-borne terror outfits, his revelation into Malegaon blasts, where most of the victims were Muslims and slant reference to blasts in Samjhauta Express, with the shocking arrest of a serving colonel officer of Indian army, has, indeed, jolted the majority of Hindus out of slumber. It is a rude awakening for these vast sections of Indian Hindu electorate, who had been dulled into believing that all the terrorists are only Muslims. Which is why the BJP terror propaganda in the quick aftermath of 26 November attacks on Mumbai was given a dumb hearing by this segment.

Majority of Hindus in India, I would say 7 out of 10, are secular in their political belief and highly tolerant of other faiths, including Islam. They have been fooled in the past by hardline voices in the BJP and Shiv Sena, their awakening over the years has forced even the BJP to abandon its pet Hindutva agenda.

At end of the day, only candid investigation process can bring out the truth. Till then, Indian people will have to wait and watch how the investigation takes it logical course. The skeptics would certainly like to find out who was really behind Hemant Karkare’s assassination, terrorists who attacked Mumbai or homebound terror groups who were exposed by the Anti Terrorism Squad chief. Speculations are not suitable for such occasions until the investigation concludes. However, majority of Indians are convinced he was killed in the brushfire of terrorists, shooting indiscriminately at Victoria terminus.

Editor: Do you think India will go for War; how do you perceive two Nuclear powers fighting? How can it effect the world peace?

Frank Huzur: Henry Kissinger spoke about George W Bush after 9/11 in these words,

“I can think of no faster way to unite the American people behind George W Bush than a terrorist attack on an American target overseas. And, I believe George W Bush will quickly unite the American people through his foreign policy”.

Indian has missed the bus of waging war against Pakistan. Like Vir Sanghavi, a senior political commentator observed the other day, the round one of the present game of hide and seek between New Delhi and Islamabad has gone to Islamabad. If ever India has had a bright opportunity to bomb Pakistani targets, it was within the very first week of Mumbai massacre. Had New Delhi acted swiftly the way it ordered Commando action at the five star hotels under siege, the world would have been beholden to its aggression out of sympathy and commisseration in moment of collective grief. Not now! Indian foreign Minister, Pranab Mukherjee, only harped over his now famous one-liner, ‘all options open’, while the Indian Defence Minister A K Antony sang paen to no-war policy with Pakistan, what with Indian Prime Minister speaking about creating more pressure, diplomatic pressure over Pakistan.

Nuclear bomb has played its pivotal part in forcing deterrence over military escalations. Both sides would know the price of such escalations, which might devour the sensible approaches and fuel unintended nuclear strike like consequences. If ever, God forbid, anything like Nuclear war breaks out as Humphrey Hawkley predicts in his magnum opus fiction work, Dragon Fire, it would wipe out half the population of Indian sub-continent, blacken the white roses of historic Indus valley civilisation and blunt the ability of people of the region to challenge the easiest of challenges in daily life and time. It would trigger apocalypse, and Europe and America would be affected as much in size and scale of devastation and destruction.

In current scenario, nuclear strike look next to Impossible. However, frightening are future prospects of Islamist and Jehadi Hindus ruling over the both nations. Like some obscure American Intelligence reports speculates remanants of Al Qaeda and Taleban might achieve suitcase nuclear weapons in the next decade or so, if similar catch goes to other terror groups or ideology masquerading as democratic force in India, the future of Armageddon in Indus Valley does look gleaming bright. Such forces of doom should be resisted with full force of public opinion.

Editor: How do you see Kashmir issue should be resolve? Do you find any connection with current situation?

Frank Huzur: Kashmir has been hanging fire and it looks only President-elect Barrack Obama administration can cut the gordon knot. He has been beholden to the pestering wound of thousands of Kashmiris both across the divide. Promise in Obama’s tenure does look tantalising at the moment as he is determined to appoint a special envoy for India and Pakistan with an eye on cutting through the stalemate. However, it would be a difficult ask from anyone, whether Bill Clinton or anyone, to persuade New Delhi and Islamabad to concede grounds. Without concessions from either side, there is no solution in sight.

General Pervez Musharraf did promise with ‘out of box’ recipe. However, even he fell prey to populist posturings and ended up making the entire cause a favourite seminar obsession from Brussels to Delhi and Islamabad. Not much could be achieved also with inability of the New Delhi government, especially UPA government, to break the jinx for fear of conceding a votebank issue to rival Hindu party like the BJP. Courage and sacrifice would determine the resolution of Kashmir in future. As for any connection with current tangle, shadow of Kashmir does loom over terrorist activities like the one at Mumbai.

Lashark-e-Taiaba has proven record in fomenting secessionist violence in Jammu and Kashmir. The kind of hold-out-hostage-taking operation has been quite a Kashmir phenomenon, though on quite smaller scale. The target at Mumbai was chilling high and sophisticated in nature and scope. There were no public declaration of intent though. Nevertheless, Kashmir was not the only motivation for orchestration of such brazen acts of terror. It was aimed at the very heart of corporate India. Moreover, terrorists involved were not a single Kashmiri.

Editor: What Indian and Pakistani government should do on diplomatic levels?

Frank Huzur:
Liberals become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb citizens who love their country and hate the enemy. Indian Prime Ministers is a liberal intelligentsia, an economist of much high reputation and conviction. Manmohan Singh stands to hear all such allegations from militant Hindu politicians and groups in India. Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani also are liberals at hearts. They are trying to prove their liberal tendencies every other day in their national broadcast. Both governments are promising to move an inch ahead every other day. However, Indian government is deeply constrained over mounting public pressure. Elections for Parliament are only a next couple of months away. Indian government will be growing panicky by March if Islamabad doesn’t deliver on its promise of prosecuting masterminds of terror attacks or for that matter if Zardari government doesn’t hand over JeM chief Maulana Masood Azhar, New Delhi government will be more jittery facing electorate.

Cooperation should be the key word for both Capitals. So far, New Delhi government has not adopted tough stance on continuity of diplomatic relations between the two countries. Until the other day, when External Affairs ministry issued advisory for Indian public, asking them not to travel Pakistan in these times, Indian government had not upset the apple cart of people-to-people exchange. However, New Delhi is under immense pressure from hawkish elements in both media and opposition to discontinue the diplomatic relations. If New Delhi is not satisfied with the diplomatic success by March, its patience out of fear of losing Parliamentary elections might run out. March-April are very crucial for diplomacy watchers of India and Pakistan.

Editor: What do you think should be done to resolve the tensions between India and Pakistan?. What should be the role of Media in defusing tensions in South Asia?


Frank Huzur:
Some veteran doves like Kuldeep Nayar are still, eternally optimistic. He is going full steam, whole hog with his people-to-people exchange programme, and will be hosting people from Lahore in Amritsar in the first week of January. People like me are also for more cultural and literary exchange. However, I would want to urge both government to increase the tempo of more and more bureaucratic, both civil and military, exchange between the two countries. Unless civil servants, who are policy makers, start meeting with each other in droves on regular intervals, much unlike foreign secretary-level or home-secretary level talk, wire of perennial tension between two nuclear powers of South Asia would be a pipe dream.

Media has to play a pivotal role in diffusion of ‘hate-thy-enemy’ propaganda. More than the government, media on both sides have to take a bow to ‘holier-than-thou’ attitude. Alas, these are only wishful proposition. Media is not an Independent entity in our part of the world. It is very much a cog in the wheel of market economy, which further influence the policy making of governments. It will find it extremely difficult to wriggle out of state-influenced propaganda. Media can only be independent in this region when each and every citizen, just like in the UK and USA (barring 9/11 paranoid American media) become a stakeholder in media broadcasting. Majority of people in India and Pakistan watch television for drama, fun and frolicking pleasure. Reading a newspaper is not a mass obsession.

In India alone, not more than 150 million out of one billion population subscribe to newspapers. Imagine, 850 million people are deprived or dispossessed enough to subscribe to newspapers. There is a collective antipathy among a huge crowd of people in claiming share in news enterprise result in unfair newscast, thus influencing the news broadcasting, results in media house dependence on government hand-outs or a tiny group of industrial houses. You can’t overlook the concern of your patron. This is a miserly picture of dependent media in Indian sub-continent.

Editor: What are you doing to promote peace?

Frank Huzur:
I am a poet, playwright and a biographer. My stint in journalism has taken me to Pakistan on quite a few occasions. In recent times, I have traveled to Pakistan, Lahore, Islamabad, Mianwali, in search of credible research and source about Imran Khan. Writing Imran Khan biography, that’s too an authorized biography, bestowed upon me an added responsibility. It was quite a major breakthrough moment for an Indian writer like me writing a biography of a Pakistani politician. The news has been received with much entuhsiasm and surprise. Imran Versus Imran-An Untold Story is now complete in writing. My publisher, Falcon & Falcon Books Ltd, London, is expecting to publish it in March.

This 550 page biography is my tribute to not only Imran Khan’s politics of struggle and sacrifice, but also to Pakistani people, the society, majority of which does pray for hope, reason and peace to prevail and win between India and Pakistan. I am also a creative consultant and joint editor with Foundation of SAARC Writers and Literature. The Foswal, an apex body of SAARC, is the most active literary and cultural wing so far as building the bridge of peace and joy between different SAARC countries is concerned. It also publish a current affairs and literary journal, Beyond Borders, which has maximum focus on peace and harmony.

Editor: Who is the beneficiary of war between India and Pakistan?

Frank Huzur: Nobody wins a war. War is devastating for both opponents in the field of action. Only those who deals in divisive politcs and defence deals have the last laugh at end of the day. People of any nationalities are doomed to weep under the influence of inflationary economy in times of war. War is not only an economic disaster, it is also an emotional catastrophe, regardless of level of enmity between the warring parties.

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  • Mahmood Ahmad says:

    I saw this interview, really very good, in different aspects
    1 – Political aspect, comments held in reserve
    2 – Cultural aspect, feel it happy to know that Mr. Huzur imposing his great endeavor for a Pakistani great cricketor and politician, Imran Khan, to write is biography and playing his part for Foswal, an active body helping SAARC countries to be closer, through literacy and cultural motive activities
    3 – Third aspect is a talent aspect, my indication is towards young talented Editor of Pakistan Times, an online journal, whose effots are obvious in conduction such interview. And also this interview help me to make projection, if i wanna see where this journal should stand in near future. So will say, Congratulation, Rubab

  • Tommy Schmitz says:

    Excellent interview, Rubab Saleem. Looking forward to Frank’s book and to more interviews in Pakistan Times like this one.

  • This is President Agha Hassan Syed inperson signed in for two reasons here:
    Foremost and the first is to say that this is really commendable work on the part of little sweetie Rubab saleem who I guess I was reading that she had posted 3005 posts.hehehehe thousands time more than her own age.Thats remarkable,and I am really impressed by this little shoot of journalism.She ll be a great bullet from journalism pistol,in next level.Good girl and good work.
    secondly its about Mr frank huzur an indian Author!!!
    I believe I was notified by the paimers about him,if i may not be wrong he is the same guy who intends to write my biography,i believe he is already in constant contact with paimers.
    This is the time I am woking in my bedroom alone and i just cant confirm it but am sure he is the guy,So its good of Rubab saleem to provide some material this way to me so that i would read and figure out about him a how he works and his previous achievements and his approach towards issues and lot more,and it will help me to further discuss with paimers to go ahead with him or not.
    Any how,
    About pakistan and india sensitive situation and tensions I would say that peace is good,but if some one keep fiddling with you and never leave tempering with your honor and integrity nd respect and dignity then it becomes inevitable to teach him lesson and thats what india needs a real THRASHING.
    India is under wong impression of being superior to pakistan,which will keep two sides unequal,and to have dialogues and to do some kind of compromoises its necessary that two parties be of one weight.Uneven balance never makes two parties to come to talk on the table.
    So its better that once for all pakistan must go into detailed war and settle all the previous accounts of east pakistan Siachan and Kargil,and after that bring india on the tale for talk.India has damaged and defamed pakistans militarys reputation and its professionalism so bad in media and on other forums that now unless pakistani military go into war and WIN that war,things will never get better between india and pakistan.
    For peace its very important that india respect pakistan being and india wont do that unless his false pride of being superior is dissolved by pakistans military in the fields of battles and in the zone of War.
    this opinion is supported by the Deputy President PAIM Mr Jamal takkko
    and by the most learnerd and wise positioners of PAIM pakistan Awami Inqilab Movement across the world.My prides my associates,My love ones,my loyals,I LOVE THEM ALL FOREVER
    Thank you all of you for giving your time and for reading my huble opinion.its over midnight in europe Germany and I feel dizzy kind of sleepy so if there are any mistakes in my letter please do ignore them.
    Thanks once again
    With passionate love for all the pakistanies
    This is PAIM
    President Agha Hassan Syed from Germany
    on behalf of deputy President jamal takkko france
    and on the behalf of all the paimers
    Good bye

  • Shaukat Khan says:

    An excellent idea to promote peace and harmoney between two nations that is the onloy way forward and a brighter future for our children in years to come.

  • Khadija Bhatti says:

    Excellent interview! It was very interesting!

  • Rubab Saleem says:

    Thanks Shaukat! I believe and even Frank yesterday said that our words are our weapons..

  • Interview with an Indian Writer Mr. Frank Huzur…

    This is the second interview of series Pakistan Times starts as an …

  • Ambarish Pandey says:

    Excellent Frank Huzur…..In India no one wants war….its a fact….we are really peace loving people.Our Muslim brothers are not in any Danger in this country..i have got thousands of muslim friends and no body is complaing about insecurities…….as i ahve earlier mentioned…Islam is in no way realted to this attacks….they are terrorists and not muslims…..Fasad is the correct term…I want to ask if this terrorists really know what is JIHAD.Free Islam from the tag of terrorism….and send this terrorists to HELL.

    And For u President Agha Hassan Syed

    President sahib,India is no way thinking himself superior than Pakistan…..Got It!!!????….also Dont talk about East Pakistan..oops!! Sorry Bangladesh….or else thousands of issues can be raised,…..ok? Keep peace..spread peace…..i dont want a war like u!!!

  • Md Imtiaz Khan says:

    Hi community.. This is the first time I am writing in any open forum. I feel, a small introduction is worth. I am an INDIAN and a MUSLIM and I think I am in question in this blog. I must praise Rubab’s effort in bringing the gray matter under some intellectual light. I was really amazed at the two contrary ideas in the blog. On the one side I found a pleasing and understanding point of view from Frank while on the other side(Mr. President)there is still a bit of speculation and apprehensive set of mind. I think its high time we concentrate on global progress and not put our useful minds in trivial conflicts which ultimately balloon up to become as big as INDO-PAK war. I just want to ask the people even Mr.President just one question, “Is it you who is going to fight in the border?” The answer obviously is a big “NO” right? So why do you want to kill thousands for your own personal interest?
    India has been and will always be a peace-loving nation and I being an Indian muslim declare that there is no danger to us in this country. Rather we are more safe here than in any other country. I would like to say that please dont consider India’s silence as its weakness.
    Mr. Prez, please remeber that no war can result in peace. So lets make our countries proud with achievements and not unacceptable and inhuman deeds.
    I am proud to a MUSLIM and even more proud to be an INDIAN-MUSLIM.

  • Angel says:

    Quite an eye-opening interview!
    Very interesting, indeed

  • Hello to all the participants of this forum,
    FIRST OF ALL BRAVO BRAVO BRAVE LEADERSHIP OF PAIM SIR PRESIDENT AGHA HASSAN SYED AND SIR JI JAMAL TAKKKO
    PAKISTAN NEEDS SUCH LEADERS WHO HAVE THE COURAGE TO BRING INDIA TO ITS KNEES WHO CAN MAKE PAKISTAN MILITARY FIGHT AGAINST INDIA WITH OUT ANY POLITICAL CONSPIRACIES IE:AME POLITICAL CONSPIRACIES WHICH MADE KARGIL EAST PAKISTAN AND SIACHAN A SO CALLED PRIDE FOR IINDIANS.
    ANY WAYS:
    I agree to the fllest with President Agha Hassan Syed about the points he raised in his blog.We are proud of such figures that we have them in our nation.From whom indians will get ppissed off.
    I gone thru all the discusions and found the most lousy in it by Amdrish panday and md Imtiaz.
    What do you the hell know about the catastrophy of East pakistan????what the hell you know that what were the situations there in that time.
    Indians were playng three sides.
    1.they were fighting inside east pakistan undeclared coward war throuu MUKTI BAHNIs
    2.They were playing or fighting another war of media trial for defaming pakistan army by spreading neusence about pak military men raping women and involved in massacres
    3.On war fronts
    Indians have never played fair with pakistan.
    see what they did in so called peace era of Indian agent Musharaf?
    India build so many dams for future to controle pakistan and to bring them nder pressure time to time on differet issues.
    what peace,so called efforts for peace
    when india is major part with CIA in fulfilling the USA deam to turn pakistan into many pieces by next some years.
    Dont talk nesense and see the facts
    their are all the more times when there is so called peace between india and pakistan but behind the wall india make such acts that he cold stay in commanding position.I just gave a small example.Do you UNDERSTAND mR WHATEVER YOU ARE.
    Indians never fight fair,and that was proved in 1947 when indians remain on the back and they intricated SIKHs to fight against Moslims.
    dont ever try to pen some thing you dont even know about.
    And you Mr Md imttiaz
    you live in India hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm
    and moslims are happy there hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm
    which india yo live in?
    that cant be the same india where moslims are being oppressed,and being ignored in all the govt departmenst for the jobs.
    By giving some people a small percentage jobs and trying to make that thing in projection abot equality of hindu moslis are Rubbish.
    There are so many separatist movements are active in india do you know that,Should I name few of them?
    Indian moslims are never happy living because indian hindus are terribly against moslims.The right of survive in india for moslims is getting bleak.
    lets see who replies on my comment and I am coming back for him
    Dear sir President agha Hassan Syed I do agree what you said.thanks for being so nonhipocrat and for being so straight and on the fact.
    Kabeer Kichlu
    Bhawalpur Pakistan

  • Ambarish Pandey says:

    Kabeer sahab….great u know sooooo much…….u know about India…U know about bangladesh……do u really know any thing?……calm….and read all the history before shouting..and saying me and my frnd Intiaz any thing………u should be in active politics………great!!!…we are non-sense and worshipper of war right?…..yeah tu puri dunya janti hai meri jaan……have i said any thing wrong or and-band against pakistan? No…..but u r shouting…..cool be cool…….have a chat with me and Imtiaz…we will let u know everything..ok? and Imtiaz is from Orissa…ok?

  • Ambarish Pandey says:

    have heard the name of Sir Saifuddin kitchlu??? The great Indian Muslim and fredom fighter from Punjab…yes from punjab ,Amritsar?..read about him…i am saying you ..you dont know any thing…”adhri ghaghri chalkan jae”…iska matlab jante ho?

  • :((((( Big Bull shit;o( Peace wid india,and Opuurtunist Upstart
    Writers like Frank Huzur!!!
    Such upstart writers with no solid back ground in their profession
    always look for opporunities to grab some hi profile figure in the name of writing book or autobiographies unlike fank Huzor had done to grab rising politicians of pakistan like Imran kaan,and Agha Hassan Syed(what I read in above blogs) etcs so that under these kind of figures who would be ruling figures of pakistan in next level for pakistani uptime generation such newly struggler writers make their bright future in their profession.0(((((;
    In third world especially in Sri lanka Pakistan India bangladesh etc it had been a practice for so many years that Nill intellectuals and s called intelligensia try to use these kid of tactics to bring them selves up in lime light ;o)……………
    By talking ilusions and impossibilities unlike this so called writer who have nothing on her account in his professional field behind,and he is always trying to exploit only one thing in all the forums to introduce himself that he is writing an auto biograpy of a crckter turned politician of pakistan.
    Other wise his bag is empty of any kind of solid References.
    Also here I would say after going through his interview I formed an opinion about him that he speaks vague and insane things which are imposible to dvelop between india and pakistan.
    For God sake face the facts and the realities and accept that hatered against each other is increasing with every passing time,and those who speak of harmony and coordial relations between these two countries is like a snow ball possibility in hell.
    I live in Uk and very well know that no one knows tthis indian author here,also e>3;)
    there are many pakistani and indian groups who fight with each other every second day :D Consult the police files and recrds for yourself.
    so I believe all those who think that relations between these two countries can ever be friendly must be living in a fools paradise.
    Pakistanies are of such nature that they would cherish and adore indian nude sexy actresses but they wont accept (indians)them in pakistan under any circumstances.
    See what happened in Gen Zia s days when Dilip Kumar visited to recieve some govt medal from that countrys president.Just go and check the record.<3
    So Dear Community,This is a world full of opportunity grabbers,
    beware of them. Always see their ulterior motives.
    all the very best to everyone. at my bestest:J-Millionaire UK (jallal):D

  • Rani says:

    Ridiculous comment mr. J… Please check the reference link given in the interview.

    He is renowned author; and not in mainstream journalism and i am sure he is more learned than you.

    You are welcome to express your opinion; i am sure Frank Huzur will take it positive.

  • Md Imtiaz Khan says:

    I am really sorry about people like Mr. Prez,Kabeer and bla bla.. who are still in the same state of mind as we left them during partition. Lets grow up man…There were blood and bullets on both side of the border when we parted. I don’t say India has done all good and Pakistan all bad. Well I must say that, if we belonging to this modern generation still think on the same line as our ancestors did, we will come up with more pakistans, bangladesh and more and more… lets grow over this BLAME-GAME. What happened was past and involved the interest of some greedy politicians(who were neither pakistani,nor indian) not that of we, the general public. Can we please get over that. I will request all pakistanis to put more concentration in education and development of this genearation. Pakistan is yet to get any ramarkable recognition as far as science and education is concerned. Istead of handing over guns to the youth please try and give books and pens. Show them the right path. I know muslims are agrressive and so am I. I will suggest you to use this aggression in some positive way and not search for wars. Intead of heading towards Kashmir your prior duty is to safeguard your border areas being engulfed by TALIBAN.
    As far as muslims in India are concerned, please don’t comment anything before you give the Muslims in your country proper status. If a muslim country doesnt recognizes muslims and calls them “MUHAZIR” and give them second citizen status we are definitely in a better position. So get over your own backlogs before commenting others.

  • Dear Miss Editor of Pakistan times Rubab saleem.
    hiya Sister,its too good to see paki women
    active a bit now a days in practical life;))))))))
    you made us feel great of ourselves the women Being ÖÖ
    and
    I think Both the countries must go into war
    there is no other solution.
    My Dearer than the Dearest President agha Hassan Syed and deputy President jamal takkko on many occasions have said which we all believe
    srongly and that is CRUSH INDIA.(*)(*) (means I love my leadership)
    Oh Come on Yara
    This is Sarrah

  • Hi,you There,Respectable Madame Rubab Salim….The Editor..
    What I learnt about pakistan en India Realations in last so many years being a paimer…..is that….indians fluctuating policies on pakistan… kept that region under threat…
    Indians never lost a minor Chance to high light smallest issue to sky hi against pakistan….Indians never leave a chance to make””MOUNTAIN OUT OF MOLE””…..
    this tension of past so many years can be Resolved only….
    according to what Sir President Agha Hassan Syed and sir Dp Jamal takkko….believes in….And that is…THRASHING THE FINAL WAR…
    Best Wishes to all…
    those press persons who…work hard to creat harmonious…..enviornment..between two contries…but should not…avoid impossibilities..!!!!!
    Best Wishes
    Shumaila Nazzo Ali (Algerian)
    jevp
    PAIM Pakistan Awami Inqilab Movement
    Europe …Now in Algeria for couple of weeks….

  • :)WAHE GURRU JI DA KHALISA>>><<<<WAHE GURRU JI DI FATEH
    WAHE GURRU WAHE GRRU
    Sat Sri akaal Baji jee
    I am born in Germany.to make my fee time useful I joined Paim,
    look Bajee Rubbab jee,india wich sikha nal wadi nainsafi rava rakhi gae hameesh tun.
    1984 dangyian de baad aj tadi sikhanu aman chain naal wasan nai dita gia.mera bapoo vi 1984 dangiandi wjah nal apna watan chadia.
    othay hun taien sikha nal achutan warga saluk hunda jay.
    maie kehni aan bharat naal jang hona zaruri ay jay pakistan nu agay chal kay kaimo daim rehna tay aunu jang karni paway gi.
    Saday Saddar jee Agha Hassan Syed tay Saday wday bhra Jamal Tako je wday suchay bandy hain suchian gala karday,tay sanu paka ilam hai ga kay au jedi gal karda sola any sach hundi.
    Taa jay au kehnday kay jang hi wtna nu bhigi ta a sika band gal sao feesad sahi kenday nay
    Changa mai chalni aa
    apni punjabi wich likhan da maksad ainak e ay kay meray dujay sikh bhen bhra vi padh tay samajh sakan kay una di pehan ki sochdi te kendi ay.
    Changa Sathnay rubbab (Satnay da matlab hunda Friend)
    Khush Ravo tay mauja maro
    Wahe gurru tuhada phala karay
    tuhadi Nikki Pehan Tamana Karandhikar singh from Gemany Biedenkopf city

  • Hello Chief Ruby Pakistan Times,
    We trust and believe in:
    PD Agha Hassan Syed & DP Jamal Takkko`s version about the
    solution is WAR WILL RESOLVE EVERYTHING.
    Bless you
    you can also tinkle me there any time where
    I am suppose to sping you.[hope u understand what I`m saying?]
    Arzu Agha******
    Pakistan Awami Inqilab Movement
    P.A.I.M
    italie

  • President PAIM Agha Hassan Syed inperson Signed in here on 04.02.09 11.46 europe time to say all those who differ our thoughts and opinion regarding india pakistan conflict and about peace lifting acts by india are respected and their opinion is respected as well.
    I am PAIM President Agha Hassan Syed
    inperson now signing out

  • Julia.Kramer Senior Analyst.L.A USA & VP PAIM/PACC
    Hi,Guys and Gals,
    I had been going thru this pakistan News site ever first time,Only because Dear Hassan Syed Agha posted his thoughts on it which is rare of him as much I know him,He is not only our president but a very loving friend and if he took pain to express any thing on any paper then the paper must be good and worth,Besides its editor is a girl which stun me.Thats because what we know is in pakistan women are oppressed.But good to see some woman doing so much in her field.
    Now Coming to point I would like to share my thoughts in brief about india.
    I would say oly that due to failed foreign policy of pakistan now india is Americas blue eyed boy.Thats a tragedy for pakistani nation.
    Thats it.Indication is enough for wise people.
    Have fun and great time
    Julia.Kramer
    Vice President
    Paim American cooperation council(PACC)
    subsidary of PAIM
    I am in europe on official visit
    I work in a multinational concern
    as a Senior Analyst.
    ps.I agree with Hassan Syed Agha´Presidents thoughts on the issue.

  • Ambarish Pandey says:

    madam tamanna Ji
    gurusikh da Sat Sri Akaal thonu..
    itthe mainu iddan lagda hai ki mainu interfere karna pauga thoddi thinking te understanding wich kyunki tussi samuchi Sikh
    community nu address kitta hai…. first of all you dont have any right to say ki kyun Jang Jaroori hai te kyun nahi..
    moreover tussi germany ch rehnde ho… inna jyaada india to pyaar hai taan itthe aaake apne Sikh paen pravan kol kyun ni rehnde… Jad tussi aaap hi India chadd gaye taaa u dont have any Right to ask other people and to Judge ki wot is wrong and wot is right… as u mentioned 1984 de dangge … that was one of the hilarious and disappointing times ever faced by any community in India.. maalko tussi likhya ki kayi loki India chadd gaye uss time.. theek likhya.. par eda matlab eh nahinhai ki hun saaade te julm ho rahe ne.. loki jaaan de ne aaaj… Ik Sardar 100 badeyan ch kalla khada pacchayana Jaanda hai..!!
    Saaaadi apni anakh hai… loki awein hi mande saaanu.. duniyaa iddan hi nahi kenhdi ki “Punjabian di Shan vakhri” ..!! Te jo saaade Guru ne Sri Guru Granth Sahib ch gyaaan paaya hai unu padho.. rather than writing down the things jo hor kucch ni par lokkan nu apas ch ladaye..!! Desh da prime minister awein ni ik Sardar ban gaya… lokkki mande ne Saaanu..!! so keep it in mind and never write down such things or blogs or such things ever.. which clearly shows ur immaturity..!!
    Waheguru ji ka Khalsa
    waheguru ji ki fateh..!!

  • Ambarish Pandey says:

    Hor ik gal…tussi ki kehna chounde ho?…Punjabi is spoken only by the sikhs……i am a hindu…but still sadi maa boli punjabi……musalmaan…christains….e vi punjabi honde hai….paar mazhub alag hain…..Sada Punjab..India da shaan hai……e gal jan leo tussi…hor Guru da gyaan pao..fer gal karo…..changa?
    Wahe Guru ji ka khalsa….Wahe Guruji ki fateh!!!!….Guru tuhada hor sab da phala kare…..SAAT NAAM SREE WAHE GURU!!!

  • Ambarish Pandey says:

    koi swaaaalo jawaabi karni hai taan aaap ji openly invited to mail me at sandycool_00@yahoo.co.in or ambarishpandey@gmail.com or ambarishpandey2003@yahoo.co.uk

  • KAKAKHEL says:

    WHAT IS NEEDED IS NOT ONLY TO BRING INDIA TO ITS KNEES, BUT MAKE THEM ACCEPT ISLAM AS THE TRUE RELIGION. I KNOW IT IS RATHER EASY BECOZ IF YOU MAKE HIM SWALLOW A PIECE OF GOSHT, THE HINDU BECOMES MUSLALMAAN.
    THEN PAKISTAN WILL NOT HAVE WORRIES ABOUT ESATERN BORDER.

  • Ambarish Pandey says:

    KAKAKHEL ji,

    I would appreciate your style for making India accept Islam!!!..but a few words i think even if u make ISLAM as the only religion in INDIA by feeding Gosht to every Hindus then also your country is not safe! Your own people are going to finish you.Remember Islam is not a religion to be forced and it is written clearly in Quran that “No one can be forced to Islam”. Islam is the complete code of conduct for the society and an individual.The Holy Quran says “There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error” (Qur’an 2:256). ”
    The above statement clearly shows no one can be forced to believe in a religion since belief is something very personal. One who follows the Qur’an will not try to force another person to believe.

    Even the prophet Muhammad, on whom be peace, could not force another person to become a Muslim. God revealed to him the following words:

    “And if your Lord willed, all who are in the earth would have believed together. Would you then compel people until they become believers? It is not for any soul to believe except by the permission of Allah (Qur’an 10:99-100).

    Read Holy Quran properly and then come and talk to me! Though i am a Hindu i respect all faith coz i think god is one!!!…Take care and may ALLAH bless you and present you with a good mind.

  • Raj Tiwari says:

    Pura interview bogus hai… Yeh banda toh bahut extremist lagta hai.. Iskay khyal pado….Hindu Terrorist…..Sab political unrest hai.Agar tum Chistains kee baat kar rahe ho toh suno.. Yeh pakistan hai hai.. yahaan Chistains offers dete hai, agar tum chistain bano gay toh.. I would give you shelter, money and free Education for Children in convent school.So People from economicaly low or from Backward class they do convert into Christains.. but have you heard this before…. Too much everything is dangerous… So chirstains have done now too much now Eyes of hindus have opened when they found that there neighbours are all of a sudden becoming christains and the Balance of power in villages are leaning towards christains….. I dont justify the killings……. but this is how it suppose to be.. We didnt start it, IT was started by church and now our own people are suffering….. I should not blame church too for the massacre… but i think What the hell hindus were doing when preachers and Fathers were converting people to CHISTAINS in open… They were mute and blind.. And We hindu what do you (Pakistan)know about india and conversion in India? you know nothing, i think you even dont know your own history,i think you belief its jinnah who gave freedom to you from Brithish..

    And this Frank huzoor is bogus, he talks all shit, i dont have problem him writing any book on Imran khan or OSAMA, IF he feels so unrest in India, how come he is so known person, How come a muslim becomes president of india and how come 30% of Indian Cricket team has muslims, how come 6% of Member of parliament are muslim , how come A muslim in india gets a oscar and not pakistani, how come a muslim become a Major General (Mohammad Amin Naik) in Indian Army, how come Abdul Hamid got Highest Gallantry Award in Indian Army……… Have peace..I know pakistan was created to make a muslim paradise… but Unfortuanatly it has prove to be a disaster….. Today a Indian Muslim is richest Muslim man in the planet.. ITs Azim Prem-Jee….But yes pakistan has done a lot of development in various industries…. like promotingFeudalism,Islamanisation of Army,Creation of Taliban,Nuclear Black Marketing,Reverse Engineering of US Technology….. Arms Race with India……… Good Good… I am not worried. Idont hurt by abusing or bragging or try to show india is far better and greated than pakistan but what keep me going is…… i know the fact and world know the fact what is pakistan, and i also know what an educated pakistani think of India….. When they think what is india………. i win the battle without uttering a single word…

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