Comments on: Hindutva Hand In Mumbai Terror: Dal Khalsa http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/ An Independent Commentator on National & International Affairs Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:50:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Lateef Mohd khan http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-51266 Lateef Mohd khan Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:39:09 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-51266 In India muslims are facing Hindutva terror,bomb terror,police terror In India muslims are facing Hindutva terror,bomb terror,police terror

]]> By: Dhruv http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-51243 Dhruv Sat, 07 Aug 2010 11:19:18 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-51243 This article is a laughable attempt by a inexperienced journalist to pull a smoke screen in front of the people of pakitan. Qasab has been convicted by a court after presentation of evidence in which it was proved that he was being handled by elements in pakistan. Getting arbit agencies to make even more arbit statements will not help Pakistanis . Now,we all know that the government of Pakistan is a puppet in the hands of the US in the day, and sleeps with the ISI/Taliban in the night. What pakistanis need to understand is that they are very close to be wiped off the face of this planet .Period. P.S please send your hate mail and arguments to khosla.dhruv@gmail.com This article is a laughable attempt by a inexperienced journalist to pull a smoke screen in front of the people of pakitan.

Qasab has been convicted by a court after presentation of evidence in which it was proved that he was being handled by elements in pakistan.

Getting arbit agencies to make even more arbit statements will not help Pakistanis .

Now,we all know that the government of Pakistan is a puppet in the hands of the US in the day, and sleeps with the ISI/Taliban in the night.

What pakistanis need to understand is that they are very close to be wiped off the face of this planet .Period.

P.S please send your hate mail and arguments to khosla.dhruv@gmail.com

]]> By: civil liberties India http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-51136 civil liberties India Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:35:34 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-51136 Civil Liberties Monitoring Committee. India Amber pet, Hyderabad, A.P. India 500013 Contact No: 09391051586 Fax No: 040-27403392 Web: www.civillibertiesindia.org Email: clmci@hotmail.com Dated: 17th May 2010 Press Note On the Completion of Three Years of Makkah Masjid Blast and Subsequent Police Firing: Hindutva Terrorism is a Reality which has been exposed Babri Masjid to Makkah Masjid: Indian Government has failed to tackle with Hindutva Terrorism On the occasion of three years of Makka Masjid blast and subsequent police firing, civil liberties committee expresses its solidarity with the victims of the blast and police firing. We also strongly condemn the negligent behavior of the government, because until now the culprits of the blast and police firing are still free. On this occasion we want to remind one and all that the first Hindutva terrorist attack was done on Babri Masjid where the Masjid tombs were brought down by bomb blast and this continued till the bomb blast at Makkah Masjid on 18th may 2007. On this day three terror incidents took place in Hyderabad. One is Blast at Makkah Masjid in which five people were killed, second is the subsequent police firing in which nine people lost their lives and third one is blaming the Muslim community by the police through using the media. The aim of first one is to create fear complex, second one was to bring down the morale and third one to suppress the Muslim community morally and feel ashamed so that they cannot stand their head high in the society. Unfortunately, a group of Hindutva police officers succeeded in their aims and objectives. Muslims became so fearful and suppressed that they could not protest nor perform last rites of the blast victims and firing victims. Because of floating the name of Shahed Bilal by the then additional commissioner of police, Rajiv Trivedi, not only the common Muslims became speechless even the Muslim leadership were stunned. This was a great conspiracy against the Muslims by the Hindutva terrorists by using the Hindutva group among the police personnel. The main aim of this conspiracy was to target the Muslims on every level. The whole society is witness to everything that happened accordingly. Immediately after the blast and subsequent firing, Civil Liberties in its fact finding report clearly stated that it is the handiwork of Hindutva and, the anti-Muslim police officer is misguiding the investigation by registering two cases of a single offence, by stating that one bomb is exploded and the other unexploded. Hyderabad police handed over the exploded bomb case to the CBI and kept the unexploded bomb case with themselves. This clearly reflects the communal mindset of Hyderabad police. By taking the advantage of blast and in the name of investigation, police targeted hundreds and hundreds of innocent Muslims. Not only this, print and electronic Media especially Telugu media played a negative role by publishing and telecasting false stories by depicting Muslim youths as terrorists in Makkah Masjid blast case. Within five minutes of blast, electronic media propagated the name of Shahed Bilal by giving the reference of police officers saying Shahed Bilal triggered the bomb from Bangladesh through his cell phone. The print media published the stories that Shahed Bilal celebrated with sweets sitting in Bangladesh. A notorious inspector Ramchandran played an important role in this whole process. The Makkah Masjid blast is a unique case among all the blast cases in India because immediately after the blast, there was a subsequent police firing on the people who were helping the blast victims to shift in the hospitals. More number of people died in the firing than in the blast. Then police started harassing Muslim youths continuously by questioning them as to why were they present in Makkah Masjid on that day. Therefore, this is said to be unique case because of the above reasons. One important thing to be noted is that, the people died in the blast and firing were only Muslims and the harassment was also on the Muslims only. Thus, we can say that a Muslim has become the soft target of the Hindutva terrorists and the soft corner of Indian government towards Hindutva terrorism is a greatest threat to national security. Because of the biased investigation of the Hyderabad police, and the laziness of CBI, real culprits are still roaming freely, due to which number of blasts took place in different parts of India. On this occasion we want to remind that last year the central Home Minister, Mr.Chidambaram had visited Hyderabad and commented that the main accused of Makkah Masjid blast, Shahed Bilal has died and the Makkah Masjid blast case has turned cold. With this statement, one can understand the seriousness, carelessness and unawareness of central Home Minister in connection with Makkah Masjid blast case. Because of the presence of such type of people, innocent people are being targeted and the culprits are roaming freely. Subsequent Police firing which is the second act of terror, for the investigation of it the Andhra Pradesh government constituted the Bhaskar Rao commission. Even after the completion of three years, the commission has failed to submit its report. This shows the inefficiency of the commission and non-seriousness of state government on police firing. On this occasion we question the government, where is the Bhaskar Rao Commission and we demand to explain the existence of this commission and whereabouts of commission . The Muslim and political leaders have failed in fulfilling their responsibility in the incident of Makkah Masjid blast and subsequent police firing. Instead, they came under the pressure of the government and issued favorable statements, because of which Muslim community has faced tremendous loss and torture. Demands: On the completion of three years of Makkah Masjid blast and subsequent police firing, we demand the following: 1. Now when the Hindutva terrorism has been exposed, we demand the government to apologize with the Muslim community for labeling, harassing, torturing and terrorizing them. 2. Arrest real culprits of terror acts of the Makkah Masjid Blast and subsequent police firing by the police personnel on innocent people 3. CBI should investigate Makkah Masjid blast case in right direction after the exposing of the Hindutva terror face. CBI should investigate about the nexus of Hindutva and anti-Muslim police officers. 4. The activities of RSS and Sangh Parivar should be checked appropriately. Government and police personnel should change their attitude of soft corner towards the RSS and its outfits 5. There are many Hindutva sleeper cells in the city, police should check and expose them immediately. 6. Take stringent action against the police officers responsible for the illegal detention harassment, torture and arrest of innocent Muslim youth. 7. Stop terrorizing people on the name of red alert, checking on the roads, and all unnecessary actions in the Muslim populated areas. 8. Bhaskar Rao Commission should be brought into activation and to submit its report as soon as possible Lateef Mohd Khan, A.Srinivas Dr. Rafat Seema Kaneez Fathima Gen. Secretary, CLMC CLMC Gen.Secretary.NISA CLMC M.Mandakini S.Q.Masood Yahiya Khan CLMC CLMC CLMC Civil Liberties Monitoring Committee. India
Amber pet, Hyderabad, A.P. India 500013
Contact No: 09391051586 Fax No: 040-27403392
Web: http://www.civillibertiesindia.org Email: clmci@hotmail.com
Dated: 17th May 2010
Press Note
On the Completion of Three Years of Makkah Masjid Blast and Subsequent Police Firing: Hindutva Terrorism is a Reality which has been exposed
Babri Masjid to Makkah Masjid: Indian Government has failed to tackle with Hindutva Terrorism
On the occasion of three years of Makka Masjid blast and subsequent police firing, civil liberties committee expresses its solidarity with the victims of the blast and police firing. We also strongly condemn the negligent behavior of the government, because until now the culprits of the blast and police firing are still free. On this occasion we want to remind one and all that the first Hindutva terrorist attack was done on Babri Masjid where the Masjid tombs were brought down by bomb blast and this continued till the bomb blast at Makkah Masjid on 18th may 2007. On this day three terror incidents took place in Hyderabad. One is Blast at Makkah Masjid in which five people were killed, second is the subsequent police firing in which nine people lost their lives and third one is blaming the Muslim community by the police through using the media. The aim of first one is to create fear complex, second one was to bring down the morale and third one to suppress the Muslim community morally and feel ashamed so that they cannot stand their head high in the society.
Unfortunately, a group of Hindutva police officers succeeded in their aims and objectives. Muslims became so fearful and suppressed that they could not protest nor perform last rites of the blast victims and firing victims. Because of floating the name of Shahed Bilal by the then additional commissioner of police, Rajiv Trivedi, not only the common Muslims became speechless even the Muslim leadership were stunned. This was a great conspiracy against the Muslims by the Hindutva terrorists by using the Hindutva group among the police personnel. The main aim of this conspiracy was to target the Muslims on every level. The whole society is witness to everything that happened accordingly.
Immediately after the blast and subsequent firing, Civil Liberties in its fact finding report clearly stated that it is the handiwork of Hindutva and, the anti-Muslim police officer is misguiding the investigation by registering two cases of a single offence, by stating that one bomb is exploded and the other unexploded. Hyderabad police handed over the exploded bomb case to the CBI and kept the unexploded bomb case with themselves. This clearly reflects the communal mindset of Hyderabad police. By taking the advantage of blast and in the name of investigation, police targeted hundreds and hundreds of innocent Muslims. Not only this, print and electronic Media especially Telugu media played a negative role by publishing and telecasting false stories by depicting Muslim youths as terrorists in Makkah Masjid blast case. Within five minutes of blast, electronic media propagated the name of Shahed Bilal by giving the reference of police officers saying Shahed Bilal triggered the bomb from Bangladesh through his cell phone. The print media published the stories that Shahed Bilal celebrated with sweets sitting in Bangladesh. A notorious inspector Ramchandran played an important role in this whole process.
The Makkah Masjid blast is a unique case among all the blast cases in India because immediately after the blast, there was a subsequent police firing on the people who were helping the blast victims to shift in the hospitals. More number of people died in the firing than in the blast. Then police started harassing Muslim youths continuously by questioning them as to why were they present in Makkah Masjid on that day. Therefore, this is said to be unique case because of the above reasons. One important thing to be noted is that, the people died in the blast and firing were only Muslims and the harassment was also on the Muslims only. Thus, we can say that a Muslim has become the soft target of the Hindutva terrorists and the soft corner of Indian government towards Hindutva terrorism is a greatest threat to national security.
Because of the biased investigation of the Hyderabad police, and the laziness of CBI, real culprits are still roaming freely, due to which number of blasts took place in different parts of India. On this occasion we want to remind that last year the central Home Minister, Mr.Chidambaram had visited Hyderabad and commented that the main accused of Makkah Masjid blast, Shahed Bilal has died and the Makkah Masjid blast case has turned cold. With this statement, one can understand the seriousness, carelessness and unawareness of central Home Minister in connection with Makkah Masjid blast case. Because of the presence of such type of people, innocent people are being targeted and the culprits are roaming freely.
Subsequent Police firing which is the second act of terror, for the investigation of it the Andhra Pradesh government constituted the Bhaskar Rao commission. Even after the completion of three years, the commission has failed to submit its report. This shows the inefficiency of the commission and non-seriousness of state government on police firing. On this occasion we question the government, where is the Bhaskar Rao Commission and we demand to explain the existence of this commission and whereabouts of commission .
The Muslim and political leaders have failed in fulfilling their responsibility in the incident of Makkah Masjid blast and subsequent police firing. Instead, they came under the pressure of the government and issued favorable statements, because of which Muslim community has faced tremendous loss and torture.
Demands:
On the completion of three years of Makkah Masjid blast and subsequent police firing, we demand the following:
1. Now when the Hindutva terrorism has been exposed, we demand the government to apologize with the Muslim community for labeling, harassing, torturing and terrorizing them.
2. Arrest real culprits of terror acts of the Makkah Masjid Blast and subsequent police firing by the police personnel on innocent people
3. CBI should investigate Makkah Masjid blast case in right direction after the exposing of the Hindutva terror face. CBI should investigate about the nexus of Hindutva and anti-Muslim police officers.
4. The activities of RSS and Sangh Parivar should be checked appropriately. Government and police personnel should change their attitude of soft corner towards the RSS and its outfits
5. There are many Hindutva sleeper cells in the city, police should check and expose them immediately.
6. Take stringent action against the police officers responsible for the illegal detention harassment, torture and arrest of innocent Muslim youth.
7. Stop terrorizing people on the name of red alert, checking on the roads, and all unnecessary actions in the Muslim populated areas.
8. Bhaskar Rao Commission should be brought into activation and to submit its report as soon as possible

Lateef Mohd Khan, A.Srinivas Dr. Rafat Seema Kaneez Fathima
Gen. Secretary, CLMC CLMC Gen.Secretary.NISA CLMC
M.Mandakini S.Q.Masood Yahiya Khan
CLMC CLMC CLMC

]]> By: Yasir http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-51090 Yasir Sun, 02 May 2010 06:22:42 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-51090 @SHILPA I am really amazed by SHIPLAS'S attitudes towards SARDARS. Everyone can now see her attitude towards SIKHS(MINORITY). Idiot.... SIKHS are always ready to give life for there Country. Half of the INDIAN Army is made up of sikhs...hahahaha History cannot be deleted.. Dont forget the attack of Indian army on golden temple.A temple was attacked with tanks and rocket launchers. These people are with no one.. They only see there own interests And the common attitude of all the Indians are Whenever they see any thing going out of there hands they will start abusing you.Like they do with each other. I dont no from where they get these abuses.. And then they say they are educated..hahaha @SHILPA

I am really amazed by SHIPLAS’S attitudes towards SARDARS.

Everyone can now see her attitude towards SIKHS(MINORITY).

Idiot…. SIKHS are always ready to give life for there Country.

Half of the INDIAN Army is made up of sikhs…hahahaha

History cannot be deleted.. Dont forget the attack of Indian army on golden temple.A temple was attacked with tanks and rocket launchers.

These people are with no one..

They only see there own interests

And the common attitude of all the Indians are

Whenever they see any thing going out of there hands they will start abusing you.Like they do with each other.

I dont no from where they get these abuses..

And then they say they are educated..hahaha

]]> By: Yasir http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-51089 Yasir Sun, 02 May 2010 06:07:49 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-51089 MUMBAI ATTACK. When i heard the news that MUMBAI has been attacked by Pakistani terrorist..I was shocked and tormented to see what Pakistani are doing. But as the time passed on, I was instantaneously attracted by few incidents. 1:- According to INDIAN news channels and police statement, When the police forces were busy in fighting with the terrorists in the Hotel they(POLICE) found a satellite phone that fell from the 20th Floor of the hotel when the terrorist were lobbing hand grenades on the forces.Immediately i thought there is something wrong in this. How can a satellite phone work after falling from such a height and interestingly police continued saying that some talk is still going on and Some one is speaking in PUNJABI.(HOW IDIOTIC).hahaha C CAN ANY ONE BELIEVE THIS STUFF??? How can they fool everyone. 2:- Second incident was attack on NARIMAN HOUSE by theses terrorists. 3:- Third incident was the killing of all the three most prominent policemen of MUMBAI. Knowingly they were send into a trap. They were brutally killed in CAMA HOSPITAL ATTACK. Is it so hard to understand that it was a setup. The question is why they were sent in one car. That too at one location only. All the three were killed just becoz they were against HINDU terrorism,and they were very near to solving malegaon case. IT WAS A BIG SET UP AIMED AT MANY TARGETS. STOP THIS CONSPIRACY. STOP KILLING PEOPLE. MUMBAI ATTACK.

When i heard the news that MUMBAI has been attacked by Pakistani terrorist..I was shocked and tormented to see what Pakistani are doing.
But as the time passed on, I was instantaneously attracted by few incidents.
1:- According to INDIAN news channels and police statement, When the police forces were busy in fighting with the terrorists in the Hotel they(POLICE) found a satellite phone that fell from the 20th Floor of the hotel when the terrorist were lobbing hand grenades on the forces.Immediately i thought there is something wrong in this. How can a satellite phone work after falling from such a height and interestingly police continued saying that some talk is still going on and Some one is speaking in PUNJABI.(HOW IDIOTIC).hahaha C
CAN ANY ONE BELIEVE THIS STUFF???

How can they fool everyone.

2:- Second incident was attack on NARIMAN HOUSE by theses terrorists.

3:- Third incident was the killing of all the three most prominent policemen of MUMBAI. Knowingly they were send into a trap. They were brutally killed in CAMA HOSPITAL ATTACK. Is it so hard to understand that it was a setup.

The question is why they were sent in one car. That too at one location only.

All the three were killed just becoz they were against HINDU terrorism,and they were very near to solving malegaon case.

IT WAS A BIG SET UP AIMED AT MANY TARGETS.

STOP THIS CONSPIRACY.

STOP KILLING PEOPLE.

]]> By: Yasir http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-51088 Yasir Sun, 02 May 2010 05:40:03 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-51088 Definately indian organizations were behind MUMBAI attack. This was done in close collaboration with MOSSAD and hindu radical organizations. They used this card very intelligently. Sadhu Pragya and the fucking colonel purohit was released after hemant karkare was killed. India got a strong reason to tackle pakistan by saying that pakistani terrorist was behind the attacks. I cant really believe how such a conpiracy was hatched. This is the direct result of inidas growing relations with ISRAEL. MOSSSAD was behind the twin tower attacks. The condition of india is pathetic almost al the states are suffering from terrorism. Recently around 100 security personals were killed by NAXALS. 130000 MUSLIMS have been murdered by INDIAN FORCES in KASHMIR. Every day conspiracies are being hatched. @ DAX. Dont try to be smart. In GODHRA train carnage..train was burnt by BJP and RSS people. Train was fired from inside and not outside and this was proved by THE COMMISION ESTABLISHED to look into the godhra train carnage. INDIA is a FAILED STATE. No one is safe here. When needed HINDUS are also murdered by security agencies and conspiracies. KASAB and all his associates are HINDUS. Indian Government was never ready to allow PAKISTANI officials to interrogate KASAB . BLOODY CONSPIRACY. U.S attack AFGHANISTAN after hatching the biggest consipiracy of the MILLENIUM. Now look at the condition of U.S Destroyed by its own FANATICS and Terrorist people. GOD is great..Blood of Millions of people killed in this war is not going to be wasted.. JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL. What should i say about INDIAN. If you are powerful they will never say anything to you, if you even FUCK them But whenever they see Any one small and weak they use all there firepowers. PEOPLE with such an intent can never succeed. It is just a matter of time. They will definitely feel relaxed after INDIA is fully destroyed OPEN YOUR EYES AND TRY TO BEHAVE RESPONSIBLY Definately indian organizations were behind MUMBAI attack.
This was done in close collaboration with MOSSAD and hindu radical organizations. They used this card very intelligently.
Sadhu Pragya and the fucking colonel purohit was released after hemant karkare was killed.

India got a strong reason to tackle pakistan by saying that pakistani terrorist was behind the attacks.

I cant really believe how such a conpiracy was hatched.

This is the direct result of inidas growing relations with ISRAEL.

MOSSSAD was behind the twin tower attacks.

The condition of india is pathetic almost al the states are suffering from terrorism.
Recently around 100 security personals were killed by NAXALS.
130000 MUSLIMS have been murdered by INDIAN FORCES in KASHMIR.
Every day conspiracies are being hatched.

@ DAX.

Dont try to be smart.

In GODHRA train carnage..train was burnt by BJP and RSS people.
Train was fired from inside and not outside and this was proved by THE COMMISION ESTABLISHED to look into the godhra train carnage.

INDIA is a FAILED STATE.

No one is safe here.

When needed HINDUS are also murdered by security agencies and conspiracies.

KASAB and all his associates are HINDUS.

Indian Government was never ready to allow PAKISTANI officials to interrogate KASAB .

BLOODY CONSPIRACY.

U.S attack AFGHANISTAN after hatching the biggest consipiracy of the MILLENIUM. Now look at the condition of U.S

Destroyed by its own FANATICS and Terrorist people.

GOD is great..Blood of Millions of people killed in this war is not going to be wasted.. JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL.

What should i say about INDIAN.
If you are powerful they will never say anything to you, if you even FUCK them
But whenever they see Any one small and weak they use all there firepowers.

PEOPLE with such an intent can never succeed. It is just a matter of time.

They will definitely feel relaxed after INDIA is fully destroyed

OPEN YOUR EYES AND TRY TO BEHAVE RESPONSIBLY

]]> By: Alex http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-51052 Alex Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:34:16 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-51052 India is just safe for a mission . That mission is started by anti-china world. They find India an alternative for China. But Game is going to over because China is taking over and opening up her markets for all (Even anti-china world). Then NATO will act and India will be as: 1) Issaistan ( Country for Christian in India; killed 1000s of innocents by Indian Army ) see - http://www.stephen-knapp.com/christian_persecution_in_india.htm 2) Khalistan (Country for Sikhs; killed 50000 Sikhs by India Army ) http://www.sikhnet.com/daily-news/tragic-memory-operation-blue-star-op-ed 3) Land of Peace ( Country for Low Caste Hindus; killed 100000 low caste Hindus by Indian Hindu Terrorists ) 4) New Pakistan ( Country for Muslims; killed 130,000 Muslims by Indian Army in Kashmir and India itself) India soon will be divided into these 4 states (New Countries ) in the world. Balance Hindu terrorists ( India Army) will be killed NATO with cluster bombs rain in revenge with thousands of low caste Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Muslims . Good luck India! Happy Reborn :) India is just safe for a mission . That mission is started by anti-china world. They find India an alternative for China. But Game is going to over because China is taking over and opening up her markets for all (Even anti-china world). Then NATO will act and India will be as:

1) Issaistan ( Country for Christian in India; killed 1000s of innocents by Indian Army ) see – http://www.stephen-knapp.com/christian_persecution_in_india.htm

2) Khalistan (Country for Sikhs; killed 50000 Sikhs by India Army ) http://www.sikhnet.com/daily-news/tragic-memory-operation-blue-star-op-ed

3) Land of Peace ( Country for Low Caste Hindus; killed 100000 low caste Hindus by Indian Hindu Terrorists )

4) New Pakistan ( Country for Muslims; killed 130,000 Muslims by Indian Army in Kashmir and India itself)

India soon will be divided into these 4 states (New Countries ) in the world. Balance Hindu terrorists ( India Army) will be killed NATO with cluster bombs rain in revenge with thousands of low caste Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Muslims .

Good luck India!

Happy Reborn :)

]]> By: raj http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-51041 raj Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:24:30 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-51041 one thing i can understand from this debate, all muslims (except some of the literate indian muslims) in the world has same thinking 1. never accept problem. 2. all bad things done by muslims, put under the carpet. 3. blame India and Hindus for every possible thing. grow up guys world is changing very fast, and u ppl are still there in 1947. pakistan can never come to india's level. we r slow but far ahead than pakistan. and u see next 20 years is ours. nobody can stand in front of india. one thing i can understand from this debate, all muslims (except some of the literate indian muslims) in the world has same thinking

1. never accept problem.
2. all bad things done by muslims, put under the carpet.
3. blame India and Hindus for every possible thing.

grow up guys world is changing very fast, and u ppl are still there in 1947. pakistan can never come to india’s level. we r slow but far ahead than pakistan. and u see next 20 years is ours. nobody can stand in front of india.

]]> By: N GURU http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-9197 N GURU Wed, 06 May 2009 14:09:00 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-9197 Frankly , I find arguing with any Pakistani , a simple waste of time. They do not seem to realise that they have a huge problem looming up. Just to remind Pakistanis of its problems: 1 the nation is practically bankrupt. 2 it is the cradle of terrorism 3 it is the worst nuclear prolifligator of all time. 4 parts of it are ruled hors central goverment 5 it uses terrorism as a policy 6 it keeps blaming India for its shortfalls. 7 it wants Kashmir to be liberated, but does Kashmir want to be liberated. 8 Even Bangladesh is much safer, prosperous and forward moving nation since its creation. So to all you Pakistan lovers, kindly get all your facts straight and clean up your house before you start calling your neighbour names Frankly , I find arguing with any Pakistani , a simple waste of time. They do not seem to realise that they have a huge problem looming up. Just to remind Pakistanis of its problems:
1 the nation is practically bankrupt.
2 it is the cradle of terrorism
3 it is the worst nuclear prolifligator of all time.
4 parts of it are ruled hors central goverment
5 it uses terrorism as a policy
6 it keeps blaming India for its shortfalls.
7 it wants Kashmir to be liberated, but does Kashmir want to be liberated.
8 Even Bangladesh is much safer, prosperous and forward moving nation since its creation.

So to all you Pakistan lovers, kindly get all your facts straight and clean up your house before you start calling your neighbour names

]]> By: DAX http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-8981 DAX Sat, 02 May 2009 05:24:13 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-8981 Dal Khalsa has no clout/existence in Punjab, India. So we can very well understand the credibility of their remarks, sitting in UK and the purpose of posting the news in this forum ! Now, few points have been mentioned above. 1. Indians have great respect for all communities living in India. 2. We have a Sikh PM, we have a Catholic Head of Ruling party. Few months back we had a Muslim President. My Pakistani friends: Can you ever imagine this in your country ? 3. Hindus have a history of more than 4,000 years wherein they've never attacked a foreign land. 3 great religions have grown in India, Buddhism, Jainism, Shikism and flourised in other parts of the world. 4. Hindu extremism has grown and is evident in last 15-20 years. Now Hindus have started thinking of their safety. 5. My Pakistani friends are talking about Rights of Minority: Just see the % of minorities in Pakistan and their social status of living, yearwise after 1947 and you will get your answer. AND you'll shut your mouth in surprise that we have all minorities thriving here in India. That's civilization and democracy. 6. Now the attacks on Sikhs after Indira Gandhi's murder was a heinous crime. We've no words other than apologies and all Govt after that have tried maximum for the upliftments of Sikh community in India. AND Sikh community knows it. 7. Gujarat: Another black spot. But here I've something to say. I was in Gujarat at that point of time. People often forget the cue to this riot. That is the carnage in Godhra train, Sabarmati Exp where more than 50 Hindu pilgrims had been charred to death by around 1500 Muslims. Any Hindu living in Gujarat just thought Enough is Enough. It was an immediate and retaliatory action unanimously supported by all Hindus. Yes, had the ministry acted faster, the loss could have been lesser. And after that, 2 local elections have passed, bringing the same Govt with huge majority in Gujarat. Undoubtedly, Gujarat is the most advanced state in India in terms of industrialization, infrastructure and most importantly job creation( for all ). 8. Minorities in India hopefully have understood that throughout the world, they need to respect the majority sentiment to stay as friends. 9. You are talking about Hemant Karkare !! More than 20 Police officers, commandoes, Security forces have been killed in that attack in Mumbai, fighting terrorists. 10. Within our limited capacity, we are trying our best to grow without begging for money from all around the world. Probably that has given us the power of thinking differently from the beggars. 11. Well, now the time has come for judgement. Whole world knows what is happening where. So dear friends from Pakistan, better clean your own house, before you dig holes in the neighbourhood. Or else your Govt's over-confidence will not get a chance to see the daylight again. Wish you all the best as long as you wish us the best !! Long Live Humanity.. Dal Khalsa has no clout/existence in Punjab, India. So we can very well understand the credibility of their remarks, sitting in UK and the purpose of posting the news in this forum !

Now, few points have been mentioned above.

1. Indians have great respect for all communities living in India.

2. We have a Sikh PM, we have a Catholic Head of Ruling party. Few months back we had a Muslim President. My Pakistani friends: Can you ever imagine this in your country ?

3. Hindus have a history of more than 4,000 years wherein they’ve never attacked a foreign land. 3 great religions have grown in India, Buddhism, Jainism, Shikism and flourised in other parts of the world.

4. Hindu extremism has grown and is evident in last 15-20 years. Now Hindus have started thinking of their safety.

5. My Pakistani friends are talking about Rights of Minority: Just see the % of minorities in Pakistan and their social status of living, yearwise after 1947 and you will get your answer. AND you’ll shut your mouth in surprise that we have all minorities thriving here in India. That’s civilization and democracy.

6. Now the attacks on Sikhs after Indira Gandhi’s murder was a heinous crime. We’ve no words other than apologies and all Govt after that have tried maximum for the upliftments of Sikh community in India. AND Sikh community knows it.

7. Gujarat: Another black spot. But here I’ve something to say. I was in Gujarat at that point of time. People often forget the cue to this riot. That is the carnage in Godhra train, Sabarmati Exp where more than 50 Hindu pilgrims had been charred to death by around 1500 Muslims. Any Hindu living in Gujarat just thought Enough is Enough. It was an immediate and retaliatory action unanimously supported by all Hindus. Yes, had the ministry acted faster, the loss could have been lesser. And after that, 2 local elections have passed, bringing the same Govt with huge majority in Gujarat. Undoubtedly, Gujarat is the most advanced state in India in terms of industrialization, infrastructure and most importantly job creation( for all ).

8. Minorities in India hopefully have understood that throughout the world, they need to respect the majority sentiment to stay as friends.

9. You are talking about Hemant Karkare !! More than 20 Police officers, commandoes, Security forces have been killed in that attack in Mumbai, fighting terrorists.

10. Within our limited capacity, we are trying our best to grow without begging for money from all around the world. Probably that has given us the power of thinking differently from the beggars.

11. Well, now the time has come for judgement. Whole world knows what is happening where. So dear friends from Pakistan, better clean your own house, before you dig holes in the neighbourhood. Or else your Govt’s over-confidence will not get a chance to see the daylight again.

Wish you all the best as long as you wish us the best !!

Long Live Humanity..

]]> By: sam http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-8754 sam Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:24:55 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-8754 This is very nice peace of information..mr karkare's death is giving a thought to this...indians use their mind against pakistan and pakistani leaders don't hve mind to protect there country from these blames. This is very nice peace of information..mr karkare’s death is giving a thought to this…indians use their mind against pakistan and pakistani leaders don’t hve mind to protect there country from these blames.

]]> By: Texan http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-8504 Texan Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:01:57 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-8504 Well - India is secular and there are a handful of fanatics. here is my view as a secular Sikhs with automatic guns in the Golden temple - BAD guys Sikhs whom I work, play and pray - Good guys Muslims like Md. Ghazi( who looted my country), Kasab(who killed innocent people) - REAL BAD guys Muslims like ex-president Dr. A. Kalam and my old classmate Naeem who is now a doctor - REAL Good guys Hindus like Sadhvi, Purohit - BAD guys Hindus like Vivekanand, and almost 99.99% Hindus I know - Good guys Christians who try to convert illiterate people by giving them a pencil and a meal and then leave them to rot as they were - BAD guys Christians who ran our convent schools and nurse the poor - Good guys All in All Anyone thinking about terrorism and against interest of INDIA - VERY bad guys Anyone thinking for prosperity and future - the ONLY good guys. Of course - every citizen has to look out for interst of his/her own country. But I think I have made my point!! Peace! Well – India is secular and there are a handful of fanatics.
here is my view as a secular
Sikhs with automatic guns in the Golden temple – BAD guys
Sikhs whom I work, play and pray – Good guys

Muslims like Md. Ghazi( who looted my country), Kasab(who killed innocent people) – REAL BAD guys
Muslims like ex-president Dr. A. Kalam and my old classmate Naeem who is now a doctor – REAL Good guys

Hindus like Sadhvi, Purohit – BAD guys
Hindus like Vivekanand, and almost 99.99% Hindus I know – Good guys

Christians who try to convert illiterate people by giving them a pencil and a meal and then leave them to rot as they were – BAD guys
Christians who ran our convent schools and nurse the poor – Good guys

All in All
Anyone thinking about terrorism and against interest of INDIA – VERY bad guys
Anyone thinking for prosperity and future – the ONLY good guys.

Of course – every citizen has to look out for interst of his/her own country. But I think I have made my point!!

Peace!

]]> By: Arjan http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-8332 Arjan Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:21:27 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-8332 i am also sikh- hindus and sikhs are brothers- sikh gurus were born hindu and we respect the traditions of hindu arya samaji- our faiths dont allow for things like this- only in extreme minorities- karma is coming to get pakistan now and as we can see it is paying for years of evil action- sadly the good people of pakistan have to pay too, they should just come to india i am also sikh- hindus and sikhs are brothers- sikh gurus were born hindu and we respect the traditions of hindu arya samaji- our faiths dont allow for things like this- only in extreme minorities- karma is coming to get pakistan now and as we can see it is paying for years of evil action- sadly the good people of pakistan have to pay too, they should just come to india

]]> By: HANU http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-8314 HANU Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:04:01 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-8314 dear sardarjis (i am a singh myself)who have posted comments here blaming hindu terrorists,that if you are really sardars or muslims disguishing themselves as such because they follow the accepted principle of deception in islam,you seem to have a very short memory of what the musalmans did to our Gurujis. I would prefer to stay with hindu terrorits rather than muslim because muslims will never ever accept sikhs. I am glad that hindus have woken up to fight their corner and the awakening is a result of islamism forcing its will on non muslims. Fire with fire is the only way to deal with evil. and if you are really a sardar then shame on you for putting out this propaganda you are doing exactically what muslims do and this is to decieve dear sardarjis (i am a singh myself)who have posted comments here blaming hindu terrorists,that if you are really sardars or muslims disguishing themselves as such because they follow the accepted principle of deception in islam,you seem to have a very short memory of what the musalmans did to our Gurujis. I would prefer to stay with hindu terrorits rather than muslim because muslims will never ever accept sikhs.
I am glad that hindus have woken up to fight their corner and the awakening is a result of islamism forcing its will on non muslims. Fire with fire is the only way to deal with evil.
and if you are really a sardar then shame on you for putting out this propaganda you are doing exactically what muslims do and this is to decieve

]]> By: Badar Munir http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindutva-hand-in-mumbai-terror-dal-khalsa/comment-page-1/#comment-8237 Badar Munir Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:58:36 +0000 http://www.pak-times.com/?p=6133#comment-8237 There is a guy here under the name RP. Read his statements. According to him Russia told him Daud Ibrahim is in Pakistan. Well, If Russia tells him go and jump intio the river I hope he will do it immediately. Even if Daud is in Pakistan then it doesn't prove anything. If India asking his hand over then why dont they hand over the Samjhota express Indian Terrorist Colonel prohit to pakistan? Are not they protecting him? He is involved in other terrosits artivities too in malegaon. How about handing over Dalai Lama to China? according to them he is also required and by giving him a safe heaven in India for decades, isn't India b breaking rules here? I don't care what west says about dalai lama. How about supporting LTTE in Srilanka? It's not hidden from the entire world that RAW had special links with LTTE and supported them for years against Srilankan government? How would we classify this act of state terrorism by India? Let's talk a little bit about the domestic genocide which is an acute form of domestic terrorism. List is long. From Sikh Massacre across India by the Hindu terrorists in which they did not even spare women and children, 2002 Genocide of Gujrati Muslim community and 2008 the Christian genocide in India which was covered by the whole world media. Why not after 25 years Tytler was brought to justice. Even a child can see his hand in the sokh genocideList can go on and on. Bottomline is if 197 people killed in mumbai are important and there is such a noise of justice for them then why not sikhs who lost thousands in 1984 sikh genicide is not equally important. Why not to serve them justice after 25 years of that event? Justice delayed is justice denied. There is a guy here under the name RP. Read his statements. According to him Russia told him Daud Ibrahim is in Pakistan. Well, If Russia tells him go and jump intio the river I hope he will do it immediately. Even if Daud is in Pakistan then it doesn’t prove anything. If India asking his hand over then why dont they hand over the Samjhota express Indian Terrorist Colonel prohit to pakistan? Are not they protecting him? He is involved in other terrosits artivities too in malegaon. How about handing over Dalai Lama to China? according to them he is also required and by giving him a safe heaven in India for decades, isn’t India b breaking rules here? I don’t care what west says about dalai lama. How about supporting LTTE in Srilanka? It’s not hidden from the entire world that RAW had special links with LTTE and supported them for years against Srilankan government? How would we classify this act of state terrorism by India? Let’s talk a little bit about the domestic genocide which is an acute form of domestic terrorism. List is long. From Sikh Massacre across India by the Hindu terrorists in which they did not even spare women and children, 2002 Genocide of Gujrati Muslim community and 2008 the Christian genocide in India which was covered by the whole world media. Why not after 25 years Tytler was brought to justice. Even a child can see his hand in the sokh genocideList can go on and on. Bottomline is if 197 people killed in mumbai are important and there is such a noise of justice for them then why not sikhs who lost thousands in 1984 sikh genicide is not equally important. Why not to serve them justice after 25 years of that event? Justice delayed is justice denied.

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