LONDON: While speculation mounts on the involvement of Islamist Jidhadist groups in Mumbai’s carnage ,Dal Khalsa UK would like to point out that the Fanatical Hand of Hindutva could be behind the terrorist attacks in Mumbai and its Hotels. The hand of Hindutva groups and radical Hindu outfits like the Bajrang Dal, RSS, alongside Shiv Sena could well be behind the latest string of attacks, mostly aimed at the general public and tourists, spokesman of Dal Khalsa (UK) said.
For the last 6 months the Indian Nation has been in World News Headlines regarding the on going genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians in the North Eastern State of Orrisa, the Pope, EU and other World leaders have expressed their outrage to the Indian Govt about the brutal killings, rapes and destruction of Christian Churches in Orissa by Fanatical Hindu Terror groups.
The word ‘Hindu Terrorism’ has also popped up in the Media in the last few weeks and leading newspapers like The Times UK and others are actively monitoring Hindutva outfits like the RSS and Bajrang Dal and their activities in Orissa against Christians all this and pressure from activist groups in the UK have led to the RSS and Hindutva Terrorism in Orrisa to be discussed in the UK House Of Lords. Lord Patten (Conservative), with a whole host of Bishops has called on the UK Govt. to protest the killings and genocide and have also discussed a ban on these groups.
The Hindutva terrorism in Orrisa has given India a bad name in the international community, in order to take away the attention from Orissa Hindutva groups may well have engineered these attacks to take the attention away from ‘Hindu Terrorism’ which was reaching world headlines and back to Islamic Terrorism. Its important to point out that in the last week at least 200 bodies have been recovered dumped on a jungle in the state of Orrisa that just shows the magnitude of the killings in the North Eastern State.
Not only this the attacks could also have been carried out to have an influence on the outcome of India’s next elections, as the Congress led Govt. is weak and is heavily opposed by most major Hindutva groups .In order to get into power once more through the BJP and to grab the votes of Hindu Nationalists these attacks may well have been engineered at just the right time. The reason for this is that 2 Leading officials who were leading the Investigation into ‘Hindu Terror Cells’ in Mumbai have been killed, it is important at this time to recall the arrest of the Hindu Sadhvi Pragya Thakur she was arrested for the Malegoan blasts and had alleged involvement in making bombs and bomb factories. The ATF Chief leading the investigation Hemant Karkare was killed a few days ago in the Mumbai Terror attacks along with another ATF senior member, Hindu radicals have celebrated his death as a blessing from God and have expressed their gratitude that he is now dead. This is evident from comments left on Indian News Blogs:
‘Pragya’s heartfelt cry and prayer to Hindu Goddess Durga, that might have resulted in the killing of not only Hemant Karkare but also other members of ATS and the Marthi Police manoos.’
‘Death of Hemant Karkare 1 ATS head Hemant Karkare’s demise was welcomed by Hindus as he was trying to create artificial Hindu terrorists’. ATS head Hemant Karkare’s death is due to his illegal and immoral way of detaining a Hindu Sadhvi Pragya.’
This leads us to ask the question as to why the head of a Govt agency who deals not with criminals but with terrorists was killed?IWhere was his security?Body armour?ts easy to say he was shot dead and so on,but would we see Metropolitan Chief Sir Paul Stephenson, on the front line in an attack like this in the UK?
There is the possibility the head of the ATF was killed of due to his exposure of Hindu Terrorism and the arrest of the Sadhvi, Hindutva groups were growing very hostile towards the ATF and their uncovering and use of the word Hindu Terrorism.The BJP/RSS has and continue to actively support the Sadhvi and all the suspects arrested in the Malegaon Blast cases, and they are highly critical of the ATF and its management.
With the attacks being blamed on Islamic Jihadists and Pakistan this may well be used as a reason to crack down on Muslims living within India, and one cannot rule out the chance of another ‘Gujarat 2002′(Genocide) through the Right Wing propaganda of the RSS Hindutva terrorists. In 2002 as well Islamic Fanatics were blamed for the train bombing of Hindus ,but earlier this year it came to light that these attacks were themselves engineered by the Bajrang Dal and RSS ,this attack was used as a reason to attack Muslims and cause communal tensions all this was exposed by the Tehelka Network in an undercover sting operation using hidden cameras and interviews of Hindutva leaders.
The Chinese Official Daily also says that Hindutva may have a hand in this horrific incident
Tehreeek E Kashmir also expresses similar views.
Dal Khalsa UK and the Sikh Community as a whole would like to at this time send its condolences to the families of the victims of this sickening attack on unarmed civilians and tourists who were going about their daily lives only for them to be tragicly ended by the terror of cowards and inhumane terrorists
We hope peace prevails and that the spirit of Humanity shines through these dark days.-SANA
Thank you, Mubashar Nizam. This is an important article.
ha ha….Pakistan has hand behind this..this is there old habit..u are fucking nation..
what is your image in worldwide every one knows that…
fuck off u…
Jaggs open ur mind and find the truth, shouting in loud voice cant convey message
every one knows…pakistan….it is a child of india….
no body knows know yours truth better then us….
I don’t know who is Dal Khalsa…or what it had said….but one thing i can say what happened is terrible. I don’t know who is the culprit….but the sufferers were ordinary people.It all had left us with a big sorrow a pain that will never overcome…..i would pray to supremo for the peace of the departing souls…and it will be very good for all…if the culprits are arrested and may public teach them a lesson…
Hindu or Muslim fanatics are terrorists…..they cannot see the tears that all left behind.,…they only full fill their misdeeds…..and nothing more…..
@Jaggs,
Bhai…..it is not worth to shout on some one else……..but to see what were ours fault…how the terrorists were successful…in their misdeeds….after we have identified our faults no one can harm us any more…..trust me!!!…
which fool hasa written this article???
Bark BArk bark
You really mean this, don’t you? That’s even scarier than the massacres carried out by these cold-blooded thugs. You probably believe that the World Trade Center attacks were carried out by Jews and Benazir Bhutto was assassinated by a Hindutva terrorist who sneaked across the border because she promised to fight terrorism. Where would that leave the lovely game Indian terrorists have been playing all these years, rushing between India and Pakistan in their killing sprees, occasionally flying off to the rest of the world for suicide bombings when they could spare time? They do that all the time in order to destabilize Pakistan, a thriving, ascending democracy that India is really jealous of and to tarnish Islam which we all know is a religion of peace, understanding, love, forgiveness and tolerance. And those camps in Pakistan? Ah, but for those freedom fighters, Jews, Christians, Hindus and every real terrorist group would have succeeded in their foul intentions even more than they are doing now. I would never defend acts of carnage against Muslims, and continue to be against the war in Iraq and the slaughter of civilians there. But I would place blame where it ought to be. I don’t want blood on my hands by offering unconscionable conspiracy theories that make one look even more contemptible than these mass murderers.
You are out of your mind. Everything is a conspiracy. Jews did it, Hindus did it, the Mosad did it, Americans did it, imperialism does it, the colonial past is responsible, “can’t rule out the possibility”, a war on Islam, “We are constantly victimized” blah blah blah. No one in their right minds believes this. These attempts to deny, speculate, to make the true source of guilt disappear, and evade finger pointing don’t wash. Of course there are Hindu fanatics, and I know why they are mad. Crazy mad. It is people who think like you that make them really really mad.
Hindu terror group could be definitely behind this attack in Mumbai
Oh dear, is someone feeling coy about an old history of pro-Khalistan (hence the Dal Khalsa link, Ambarish) terrorism now? Don’t you get it, guys? We’re all capable of terror: Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians… God knows there are enough idiots of every stripe and color and a long history of wanton violence. When it happens, the point is to condemn it and yes, take ownership, and try to stop it, not to follow the ostriches with heads buried in sand policy. Not to duck behind a holier than thou them-not-us, but take responsibility in one’s community, regardless of which one it is in each case. We’re playing with fire here. This is like Pakistan in its eternal quest for “evidence.” When your terrorist Frankensteins strangle you in the end (and don’t kid yourselves that it’s not already happening) then you’ll have enough “evidence,” but it’ll be too late.
We could have suspected the “Hindu terrorists”, if Mr.Karkare and others were murdered by some unknown assailants. But the things turned out to be, the ATS chief and co-officers became instrumental in further killing of innocent people, by providing the terrorists, their police vehicle. Why on the earth, they went to Cama Hospital place, if they did not even had some bricks with them to throw at the terrorists? Did they know that Hindu terrorists like Pragya was stationed there? It is not correct to say anything without knowing the fact; and it is not decent to accuse one who is dead; but it was utter foolishness that lead to the mishap on qualis. At least they should have realised their capabilities and limitations while encountering a terrorist attack. They are called “anti terrorist squad”. How can one believe that they went down without any fight at all; and allowed the terrorists to take the running vehicle? It cannot be equated to the ambushes our soldiers are occasionally subjected to. Think before you act. Thank you.
What is Mubarak Nashar talking and what you guys are discussing and debating? Mubarak Nashar seems to be a typical pakistani leader who wants to promote terrorism but wants to put blame on some foreign entity. Please know the facts well…! There is a terrorist of pakistani origin who has been captured and has revealed all his Lashkar links, his 1 year training in Muzaffarabad, the names of the HEADS who have taught them to use different kinds of dreaded ammunition, their intellegence chief, their journey to India from Karachi and everything that can be linked to Pakistan and Lashkar e- taiba.
As far as ATS chief is concerned, they may have known that they may die as they were having only rifles with them; but yet the three of them attempted to trap the terrorist but unfortunately got killed. They died a hero’s death and they are martyrs and not like the ISI and the Lashkar chiefs who wants to operate from behind the curtains.
Who is Mubarak Nashar? Is he worth discussing. Since each and every proof has come before World now, it is futile to dicuss him any more.
I hope he will open his senses now.
Is there any information about this subject in other languages?
1. Russaia says Dawood Ibrahim’s gang facilitated the attack, while Pakistan denies Dawood is in Pakistan
2. This article is of the same genre of lies that Pakistan is used to promoting .. that Pakistan was never involved in nuclear proliferation; then suddenly AQ Khan acted in his individual capacity; then AQ Khan turns around and says the Pakistan Govt. knew what he was doing …
3. No one believes what Pakistan and its leaders say .. LIARS!!!
I firmly believe that the bombay attacks were carried out by the Hindu terrorists. Hindu nation is a terrorist nation and nobody knows it more than us.
Khalistan wins freedom
well all of you guyz dont know the details except the newx wat u r hearing and news wat we r getting in pakistan, if both sides will see no body will take responsibility of mambai attacks.. see the politicians in india are blaming pakistan, they caught a so called pakistani too but that doesnt prove anything. ok i will say i was behind mombai attacks. u cant blame me for that. u shud blame ur protectors, where was the army, where was security? wat was the backup?
why the best men of ATS got killed in these attacks? why did widow of karkare refuse money from lalit moodi? how did terrorists entered mumbai by a rubber boat? my dear and stupid friends dont be fools and just believe wat u r hearing. go behind the scenes, use ur common sense. dont just blame sumone or say dat we are innocent.
All i want to say is watever happend in mumbai was preplanned by sumone from inside. without dat it couldnot be possible and there are many things to consider before blaming sumone.
Pakistan must select 5000 sites within India and bomb it. Whoever starts the nuclear war, wins it. Pakistan MUST destroy India., even if it means the destruction of the whole of Pakistan. India and RSS will not see sense. They will not see reason. Hindus are barbarians. Look at their real (and ugly) face.. Mumbai 1992.. Gujarat 2002. Babu Bajrangi represents the real face of Hindutva. Sadhvi Pragya represents the Hindu womanhood. Hindus will not listen to argument and logic. Muslims are suffering because they are soft, decent, polite and engaging. They must become brutal like the Israelis… and bomb India… to hell with the consequences. Muslims must adopt Israel as its role-model… and take their heat out on Hindus… If they have RSS, muslims must find an antidote to RSS. You cannot fight RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal/Durga Vahini with essays… and roses. Fight them with force. Only force is respected.
For Pakistanis
Now that Mr president(Mr Zardari) has agreed..is there anything left to say. There is no point living in fools paradise guys. You very well know that even u wont dare step in few areas of west Pakistan!!Acceptance can still pave a way towards improvement but until u don accpt it..damage will continue…ah and yes.. in worst case ..5000 sites wont be enough ..even if 10000 sites are destroyed India still has enough strength to wipe out ….but i hope u realise that its not a solution.
For Non Pakistanis
Guys its not easy for peaceful normal people ,like us, to accept that their country breeds terrorism and is cornered by the world. They love their country equally and it will obviously hurt them to digest this hard truth, we should be polite.
Suna,
JOKE
Ek sardarji tha usne kya kaha padhliya.
Sardarji ko akal kitni hoti hai sabko malum hai.
I respect Sardars, they are warriors and patriots,
but not this Sardar.
SHILPA
“Pakistan times” seems to be a resonable publisher .. So , please do not dilute your position by publishing all these craps by so called Dal Khalsha ..
Pakistan is under serous trouble .. Pakistanis knows .. whole world knows .. so do not try to divert attention to hide the actual cause that will harm more to the Pakistani people .
jokers
what can you say except this on India
ONLY TIME WILL TELL US THE REAL CULPRIT BEHIND THE MUMBAI TERROR ATTACKS
u fools…jst be quite…keep ur mind sleeping behind d bars…ok..
so, this is a blog of loosers
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Loosers muslims and some sikh loosers like dal khalsa..
I have read quite interesting comments here. What surprises me are couple of things. Hindu attitude towards minorities is extremely shameful. One girl here Shilpa posting jokes about sardars is disgusting. You call yourself educated? If it were not for all sikhs in Indian army, you can hardly fight a war. At least respect them. We are no friends with sikhs but we respect them as brave enemies. Thats the way it should be. Another gentleman said Pakistan is a child of India? How come you were ruled a child for more than 500 years? I think idiotic comments should be avoided. Its not easy to subdue the muslim nation as a whole. Live and let live in peace. As far as Mumbai attack is concerned, we all condemn such events and responsibles should be brought to justice. Who is really behind this we still do not know the full story. I think key to all this is that both sides release full information to the public. Though Hemant karkare’s murder doesn’t fit in the equations but I hope that there must be some investigation already done on that too.
There is a guy here under the name RP. Read his statements. According to him Russia told him Daud Ibrahim is in Pakistan. Well, If Russia tells him go and jump intio the river I hope he will do it immediately. Even if Daud is in Pakistan then it doesn’t prove anything. If India asking his hand over then why dont they hand over the Samjhota express Indian Terrorist Colonel prohit to pakistan? Are not they protecting him? He is involved in other terrosits artivities too in malegaon. How about handing over Dalai Lama to China? according to them he is also required and by giving him a safe heaven in India for decades, isn’t India b breaking rules here? I don’t care what west says about dalai lama. How about supporting LTTE in Srilanka? It’s not hidden from the entire world that RAW had special links with LTTE and supported them for years against Srilankan government? How would we classify this act of state terrorism by India? Let’s talk a little bit about the domestic genocide which is an acute form of domestic terrorism. List is long. From Sikh Massacre across India by the Hindu terrorists in which they did not even spare women and children, 2002 Genocide of Gujrati Muslim community and 2008 the Christian genocide in India which was covered by the whole world media. Why not after 25 years Tytler was brought to justice. Even a child can see his hand in the sokh genocideList can go on and on. Bottomline is if 197 people killed in mumbai are important and there is such a noise of justice for them then why not sikhs who lost thousands in 1984 sikh genicide is not equally important. Why not to serve them justice after 25 years of that event? Justice delayed is justice denied.
dear sardarjis (i am a singh myself)who have posted comments here blaming hindu terrorists,that if you are really sardars or muslims disguishing themselves as such because they follow the accepted principle of deception in islam,you seem to have a very short memory of what the musalmans did to our Gurujis. I would prefer to stay with hindu terrorits rather than muslim because muslims will never ever accept sikhs.
I am glad that hindus have woken up to fight their corner and the awakening is a result of islamism forcing its will on non muslims. Fire with fire is the only way to deal with evil.
and if you are really a sardar then shame on you for putting out this propaganda you are doing exactically what muslims do and this is to decieve
i am also sikh- hindus and sikhs are brothers- sikh gurus were born hindu and we respect the traditions of hindu arya samaji- our faiths dont allow for things like this- only in extreme minorities- karma is coming to get pakistan now and as we can see it is paying for years of evil action- sadly the good people of pakistan have to pay too, they should just come to india
Well – India is secular and there are a handful of fanatics.
here is my view as a secular
Sikhs with automatic guns in the Golden temple – BAD guys
Sikhs whom I work, play and pray – Good guys
Muslims like Md. Ghazi( who looted my country), Kasab(who killed innocent people) – REAL BAD guys
Muslims like ex-president Dr. A. Kalam and my old classmate Naeem who is now a doctor – REAL Good guys
Hindus like Sadhvi, Purohit – BAD guys
Hindus like Vivekanand, and almost 99.99% Hindus I know – Good guys
Christians who try to convert illiterate people by giving them a pencil and a meal and then leave them to rot as they were – BAD guys
Christians who ran our convent schools and nurse the poor – Good guys
All in All
Anyone thinking about terrorism and against interest of INDIA – VERY bad guys
Anyone thinking for prosperity and future – the ONLY good guys.
Of course – every citizen has to look out for interst of his/her own country. But I think I have made my point!!
Peace!
This is very nice peace of information..mr karkare’s death is giving a thought to this…indians use their mind against pakistan and pakistani leaders don’t hve mind to protect there country from these blames.
Dal Khalsa has no clout/existence in Punjab, India. So we can very well understand the credibility of their remarks, sitting in UK and the purpose of posting the news in this forum !
Now, few points have been mentioned above.
1. Indians have great respect for all communities living in India.
2. We have a Sikh PM, we have a Catholic Head of Ruling party. Few months back we had a Muslim President. My Pakistani friends: Can you ever imagine this in your country ?
3. Hindus have a history of more than 4,000 years wherein they’ve never attacked a foreign land. 3 great religions have grown in India, Buddhism, Jainism, Shikism and flourised in other parts of the world.
4. Hindu extremism has grown and is evident in last 15-20 years. Now Hindus have started thinking of their safety.
5. My Pakistani friends are talking about Rights of Minority: Just see the % of minorities in Pakistan and their social status of living, yearwise after 1947 and you will get your answer. AND you’ll shut your mouth in surprise that we have all minorities thriving here in India. That’s civilization and democracy.
6. Now the attacks on Sikhs after Indira Gandhi’s murder was a heinous crime. We’ve no words other than apologies and all Govt after that have tried maximum for the upliftments of Sikh community in India. AND Sikh community knows it.
7. Gujarat: Another black spot. But here I’ve something to say. I was in Gujarat at that point of time. People often forget the cue to this riot. That is the carnage in Godhra train, Sabarmati Exp where more than 50 Hindu pilgrims had been charred to death by around 1500 Muslims. Any Hindu living in Gujarat just thought Enough is Enough. It was an immediate and retaliatory action unanimously supported by all Hindus. Yes, had the ministry acted faster, the loss could have been lesser. And after that, 2 local elections have passed, bringing the same Govt with huge majority in Gujarat. Undoubtedly, Gujarat is the most advanced state in India in terms of industrialization, infrastructure and most importantly job creation( for all ).
8. Minorities in India hopefully have understood that throughout the world, they need to respect the majority sentiment to stay as friends.
9. You are talking about Hemant Karkare !! More than 20 Police officers, commandoes, Security forces have been killed in that attack in Mumbai, fighting terrorists.
10. Within our limited capacity, we are trying our best to grow without begging for money from all around the world. Probably that has given us the power of thinking differently from the beggars.
11. Well, now the time has come for judgement. Whole world knows what is happening where. So dear friends from Pakistan, better clean your own house, before you dig holes in the neighbourhood. Or else your Govt’s over-confidence will not get a chance to see the daylight again.
Wish you all the best as long as you wish us the best !!
Long Live Humanity..
Frankly , I find arguing with any Pakistani , a simple waste of time. They do not seem to realise that they have a huge problem looming up. Just to remind Pakistanis of its problems:
1 the nation is practically bankrupt.
2 it is the cradle of terrorism
3 it is the worst nuclear prolifligator of all time.
4 parts of it are ruled hors central goverment
5 it uses terrorism as a policy
6 it keeps blaming India for its shortfalls.
7 it wants Kashmir to be liberated, but does Kashmir want to be liberated.
8 Even Bangladesh is much safer, prosperous and forward moving nation since its creation.
So to all you Pakistan lovers, kindly get all your facts straight and clean up your house before you start calling your neighbour names
one thing i can understand from this debate, all muslims (except some of the literate indian muslims) in the world has same thinking
1. never accept problem.
2. all bad things done by muslims, put under the carpet.
3. blame India and Hindus for every possible thing.
grow up guys world is changing very fast, and u ppl are still there in 1947. pakistan can never come to india’s level. we r slow but far ahead than pakistan. and u see next 20 years is ours. nobody can stand in front of india.